Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[David1819]

Where's that from?

My own deduction.

[Steve_uk]

I still want to know why Julie mugford slept in the same bed as Jeremy Bamber, in the aftermath of August 7th1985 when she was armed with the knowledge that he was planning to kill certain members of his immediate family ladies. I still have not received a logical, sensible answer......

We don't know for sure that they were intimate. She wanted to leave but he said he needed her. He was taking valium tablets washed down with alcohol. She pressed him about the murders, whereupon he made up the hitman story on the spot, hence the inaccuracies which David1819 has pounced upon.

[Caroline]

West admits he completed the C1 form/log after talking to Jeremy! It's in his first statement dated 9th Aug 1985 so he must have written the time he stared writing the log, not the time he spoke to Jeremy.

 http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,6845.msg317551.html#msg317551

[Caroline]

Woohoooo!! The reason that they didn't know West wrote the C1 form AFTER speaking to Jeremy is because his 9th of August statement wasn't at trial!

That sorts that out! Jeremy couldn't have called at 03:36!

[David1819]

West admits he completed the C1 form/log after talking to Jeremy! It's in his first statement dated 9th Aug 1985 so he must have written the time he stared writing the log, not the time he spoke to Jeremy.

Yes but his 9th Aug statement has the correct time he received the call (before 3:26am)

My theory is that he did write 3:26am on the call log but wrote everything down so badly and illegible he had to re-do it from memory a month later.

Its already been pointed out on red that there are two versions of Wests 3:36am log. Hence I don't believe either are the origional log.

[ILB]

Because Bamber wasn't sure how old she was!

neither was her father then. How do the police get two ages of 27 and 26 ....

[Caroline]

Yes but his 9th Aug statement has the correct time he received the call (before 3:26am)

My theory is that he did write 3:26am on the call log but wrote everything down so badly and illegible he had to re-do it from memory a month later.

Its already been pointed out on red that there are two versions of Wests 3:36am log. Hence I don't believe either are the origional log.

Yes, because he has consulted with the control room by the time he made the statement and corrected the time. I have seen the logs you're referring to and have copes, they ALL state 03:36.

What I have posted isn't a theory, he admits to completing the C1 form AFTER speaking to Bamber and THAT is significant!

[David1819]

Woohoooo!! The reason that they didn't know West wrote the C1 form AFTER speaking to Jeremy is because his 9th of August statement wasn't at trial!

That sorts that out! Jeremy couldn't have called at 03:36!

Yes it was.

[ILB]

We don't know for sure that they were intimate. She wanted to leave but he said he needed her. He was taking valium tablets washed down with alcohol. She pressed him about the murders, whereupon he made up the hitman story on the spot, hence the inaccuracies which David1819 has pounced upon.

Steven if we go by Julie's statements he had told her he had been planning it all day. Why did Julie not inform the police at the earliest opportunity. This is not a scenario where someone is protesting innocence and the spouse/partner is on the fence in decline et Al. " It wasn't me honey they're talking bollocks. If we are to believe Julie Jeremy was planning to do it. And then it happend. Why no mention to Essex police from the immediate outset???

[Caroline]

Yes it was.

So it was, but he was never asked about completing the C! form at the end and that is what he stated! That's obviously why there is an initial difference in time.

[ILB]

If you don't believe you've received any logical, sensible answers, from us, as to why she continued to sleep with him -incidentally, she claims there was no sex after the murders- perhaps you have one of your own you'd like to share with us.

yeah no worries, Jeremy Bamber fucked her off for another woman and she had an axe to grind

[ILB]

Probably because none of us are Julie Mugford. There is no one here who can answer why she did anything. If you want to know why she did something, you need to ask her or read her statements. Any suggestion provided by anyone who believes Bamber guilty will always be rebuked as 'illogical' and could only ever be an opinion - and you're only interested in FACTS right?

because you know Julie is talking a load of shite.

[Caroline]

yeah no worries, Jeremy Bamber fucked her off for another woman and she had an axe to grind

So if she just wanted to get back at Bamber, why did she blame the murders on MacDonald?

[ILB]

Woohoooo!! The reason that they didn't know West wrote the C1 form AFTER speaking to Jeremy is because his 9th of August statement wasn't at trial!

That sorts that out! Jeremy couldn't have called at 03:36!

" daughter aged 26 has gone beserk" " my sister aged 27 im still waiting....

[David1819]

So it was, but he was never asked about completing the C! form at the end and that is what he stated! That's obviously why there is an initial difference in time.

If he could remember the time on the 9th of august, then he would have remembered the time just after the call had happened.

West told Bonnet that Sheila was aged 26 Yet Wests phone log states 27.

I just get impression his phone log was so illegible and embarrasing they made him do it again.