Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[David1819]

In his statement of 23 September 1985, however, PC Saxby asserts that he received a radio message from Chelmsford Police Station at about 03:30 and makes no mention of receiving a telephone call from Bonnett or HQ.

At 10am the same morning he wrote about the telephone and radio calls in his pocketbook. Six weeks later he has probably forgotten about it.

He then states that as a result of that message, he left to attend WHF with Ps Bew and Pc Myall at about 03:35, arriving at about 0345.

Yes

Bonnett stated that after being contacted by Pc West, he (Bonnett) contacted a mobile police car (CA7). Contacting a car would have to be by radio. He then states that he sent that vehicle to WHF at 03:35 and subsequently received notification by radio at 03:48 of its arrival at WHF.

Yes. The likely explanation for that is by the time Bonnet received the message it was 3:48 on his clock.  The clock display in CA07 was three minutes behind Bonnets. Or there was a delay in updating bonnet about their arrival.

[Caroline]

In his statement of 23 September 1985, however, PC Saxby asserts that he received a radio message from Chelmsford Police Station at about 03:30 and makes no mention of receiving a telephone call from Bonnett or HQ.

He then states that as a result of that message, he left to attend WHF with Ps Bew and Pc Myall at about 03:35, arriving at about 0345.

Bonnett stated that after being contacted by Pc West, he (Bonnett) contacted a mobile police car (CA7). Contacting a car would have to be by radio. He then states that he sent that vehicle to WHF at 03:35 and subsequently received notification by radio at 03:48 of its arrival at WHF.

So what? Perhaps West did call - what difference does it make?

[David1819]

Saxby and Myalls pocket books both state they left the station at 3.39. While Bews pocket pocket book states 3.40.

However six weeks later they all claim they left at 3:35am. That is because the times in their pocket books would mean they must have travelled at over 90mph. Hence they all agreed they left at 3.35 making the journey speed a plausible 50mph.

So probably the clock at Witham was ahead of the clocks at HQ.

If Bews and Myall are accurate in their arrival time as well as everything else par departure time. It would mean Jeremy left his place at around 3:39am

[Reader]

So what? Perhaps West did call - what difference does it make?

Pc West consistently and specifically stated that he used radio to do that, not telephone, whereas the recent notes relating to the Dickinson enquiry very specifically say that Pc West telephoned while he still had Jeremy on hold on the other (telephone) line. If both Bonnett and Pc West contacted Pc Saxby, he would presumably tell the second caller that he'd just been sent to WHF by the first caller, but neither Bonnett nor Pc West make any mention of that, and neither suggests Bonnett and Pc West contacted Pc Saxby simultaneously.

[Caroline]

Pc West consistently and specifically stated that he used radio to do that, not telephone, whereas the recent notes relating to the Dickinson enquiry very specifically say that Pc West telephoned while he still had Jeremy on hold on the other (telephone) line. If both Bonnett and Pc West contacted Pc Saxby, he would presumably tell the second caller that he'd just been sent to WHF by the first caller, but neither Bonnett nor Pc West make any mention of that, and neither suggests Bonnett and Pc West contacted Pc Saxby simultaneously.

And? How would it have enriched the evidence? Which notes are you referring to?

[David1819]

Bill, do you have any intentions of addressing the problems and disputes with your "undisputed end of story"?

[ILB]

The frustrating element about this whole case is that back in October 1986 the full logs,documents were not available for disclosure to the defence. In my opinion how can a man have a fair trial without every  aspect laid bare in the open. From the September 1985 arrest to the commencement of the trial some thirteen months later why wasn't all these missing logs discovered laid bare etc? Why, and I place empathise on the word why, is Jeremy Bambers legal team discovering missing logs some 34 years later? Why was this all suppressed and hidden? Regardless of guilt or innocence. We are supposed to be a developed country with the best justice system. Something stinks...

[Caroline]

The frustrating element about this whole case is that back in October 1986 the full logs,documents were not available for disclosure to the defence. In my opinion how can a man have a fair trial without every  aspect laid bare in the open. From the September 1985 arrest to the commencement of the trial some thirteen months later why wasn't all these missing logs discovered laid bare etc? Why, and I place empathise on the word why, is Jeremy Bambers legal team discovering missing logs some 34 years later? Why was this all suppressed and hidden? Regardless of guilt or innocence. We are supposed to be a developed country with the best justice system. Something stinks...

Which logs weren't available?

[Caroline]

3.27am... God they must have put Jeremy through the mill at sports day at greashams...

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[ILB]

Thtime your run from goldhanger to Whitehouse farm xx

[ILB]

Time your run error on my behalf xx why was west talking to Jeremy at 3.37am love??

[Caroline]

Time your run error on my behalf xx why was west talking to Jeremy at 3.37am love??

He wasn't.

[Caroline]

He wasn't.

Jeremy didn't go on foot from Goldhanger to WHF after talking to West, he drove.

[ILB]

No love you didn't answer my question why was the time recorded at 3.37?

[ILB]

Apologise for the 3.27am 3.37am a mistake purely on my own typing error. I just want to know the simple answer as to why we are only discovering the little things like this 34 years later?...