Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[Caroline]

In his statement, there is no delay and yet ....... there it is.

[Jane]

In his statement, there is no delay and yet ....... there it is.

In his mind there may not have been because he filled the wasted minutes doing everything OTHER than what was appropriate under the alleged circumstances.

[lookout]

You make a good case lookout but it's the issue with the telephone directory which really implicates him because it shows his brain is functioning in his mendacious scenario and is not frozen by being overwhelmed.

Of course the real reason many of us suspect for the lapse of time was that he was busying himself with cleaning up and preparing himself for the reverberations of his actions.

I'd say it's only natural that you'd think on those lines where he'd be cleaning and preparing because of your opposing views and because of my own personal views I tend to see things from a less accusatory point of view giving him the benefit of the doubt under the present circumstances at the time.

[Caroline]

In his mind there may not have been because he filled the wasted minutes doing everything OTHER than what was appropriate under the alleged circumstances.

Maybe not in his mind - but in reality.

Jeremy made a balls up when he called Julie first, not only did it cause a delay between the time he said the call from his father occurred and his call to the police - but such a delay that would need explaining, but it caused him to stumble when recalling events - hence why sometimes he called Julie first and at other times, he called the police first. I wonder when the CT will fit in the call to Julie - given that Bill hasn't even included it and Jeremy is still saying he called her after the police. None of it adds up!

[lookout]

Many have said had it been them, they'd have sped to the farmhouse at break-neck speed, but------if he'd done that, I'd have immediately said he was guilty.

[Caroline]

Many have said had it been them, they'd have sped to the farmhouse at break-neck speed, but------if he'd done that, I'd have immediately said he was guilty.

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[Steve_uk]

Yes, but he could have made the call after that - leaving no time gap. However, he called Julie and there were witnesses to that.

I think he was relying on the call that he made from White House Farm to his answerphone to give him the alibi. However the Police removed the tapes and this part of the story was forgotten.

[Jane]

Many have said had it been them, they'd have sped to the farmhouse at break-neck speed, but------if he'd done that, I'd have immediately said he was guilty.

That's perverse almost in the extreme and I'm  betting you're the only one who'd think along those lines. There again, what would have been the point when they were all dead?

[Steve_uk]

I'd say it's only natural that you'd think on those lines where he'd be cleaning and preparing because of your opposing views and because of my own personal views I tend to see things from a less accusatory point of view giving him the benefit of the doubt under the present circumstances at the time.

But there are too many doubts which have accumulated lookout, to the point where the whole story has become a modicum of truth interwoven with a tissue of lies.

[lookout]

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Killers can't get back to their place of murder quick enough. Right ? A murderer will invariably return to where they committed the crime if only to see " their work ". Psychopaths in particular. Haven't you read about it ? It's a power thing that they have over those who they've killed. 

[Caroline]

Killers can't get back to their place of murder quick enough. Right ? A murderer will invariably return to where they committed the crime if only to see " their work ". Psychopaths in particular. Haven't you read about it ? It's a power thing that they have over those who they've killed.

He did return to the scene! And he controlled the cops while he was there. The ultimate power!

[lookout]

He did return to the scene! And he controlled the cops while he was there. The ultimate power!

Inside the farmhouse where they all lay? How did he control the cops ?

[Jane]

Killers can't get back to their place of murder quick enough. Right ? A murderer will invariably return to where they committed the crime if only to see " their work ". Psychopaths in particular. Haven't you read about it ? It's a power thing that they have over those who they've killed.

The chances are he hadn't long left three. A tad too soon to admire his work. Besides which there were other and necessary things to occupy his thoughts. Such as how best to present himself as the concerned son

[Caroline]

Inside the farmhouse where they all lay? How did he control the cops ?

Because they worked from his story!

[lookout]

Because they worked from his story!

Obviously ! How else would they have known anything ? You call that controlling the cops ? He'd have controlled them if he hadn't have answered what they were asking him at the time.