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Offline Caroline

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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2019, 03:45:PM »
Yes it does seem unlikely that both Nevill and Jeremy would speak to West.

West would have told Jeremy that he had already spoken to Nevill.

West didn't take any 999 calls either and he had no reason to lie.
« Last Edit: October 08, 2019, 03:51:PM by Caroline »
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« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2019, 03:59:PM »
Nevill had rang 999 ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


In which case he'd have got through to central calls where he'd have been asked "Which service do you require?" Can you give a reasonable explanation as to why this call would have been withheld?

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2019, 04:07:PM »
West didn't take any 999 calls either and he had no reason to lie.


Well, having babbled on about it not being possible to prove a negative, MAYBE it is!!!! IF Nevill had dialed 999 he wouldn't, as you say, have got through to a police station, but to an emergency call centre who'd have put the call through to the appropriate emergency service. UNless that person was in on the "let's frame Jeremy" thing, WHY would they have kept silent about receiving Nevill's call?

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2019, 04:11:PM »

In which case he'd have got through to central calls where he'd have been asked "Which service do you require?" Can you give a reasonable explanation as to why this call would have been withheld?

Not one officer stated that they spoke to Nevill, the claim is ridiculous and if this is the best that the CT can come up with - I don't know why they are bothering.
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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2019, 06:09:PM »
West didn't take any 999 calls either and he had no reason to lie.

You forget - 'The industrial frame'.
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« Reply #50 on: October 08, 2019, 06:11:PM »
You forget - 'The industrial frame'.


I guess we should be adding the guy in the emergency services call room to the list.

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« Reply #51 on: October 08, 2019, 06:21:PM »
Mind you the Industrial frame department had not been set up when West took Nevill's and Jeremy's call.

So West would have informed Jeremy of Nevill's call. Maybe in all the excitement it slipped Jeremy's mind.
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« Reply #52 on: October 08, 2019, 07:01:PM »
Mind you the Industrial frame department had not been set up when West took Nevill's and Jeremy's call.

So West would have informed Jeremy of Nevill's call. Maybe in all the excitement it slipped Jeremy's mind.

Well. some say that the IF (Industrial Frame) started with West  ;D ;D
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« Reply #53 on: October 08, 2019, 07:07:PM »
Well. some say that the IF (Industrial Frame) started with West  ;D ;D


Indeed it was once mooted that it was West who, single handed, took it upon himself to withhold information in case it was ever decided that it would be worth prosecuting Jeremy.

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« Reply #54 on: October 08, 2019, 07:14:PM »

Indeed it was once mooted that it was West who, single handed, took it upon himself to withhold information in case it was ever decided that it would be worth prosecuting Jeremy.

Well, always pays to be vigilant - never know when you might need to frame someone. Joking aside, if you feel that you have to make that kind of excuse , then you should re-evaluate your thinking.
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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #55 on: October 08, 2019, 07:18:PM »
3:22am Control room

JB: You’ve got to help me, my father has just phoned me saying ‘please come over, your
sister has gone crazy and has the gun’ then the phone went dead. My father sounded
terrified, I don’t think he was kidding.

West: Where does your father live?

JB: White House farm Tolleshunt D'arcy.

West: Does your sister have access to any guns?

JB: Yes my father has a collection of 12 bores and 4.10s and .22 rifles. Look my sister has a
history of mental illness. You’ve got to help me.

West: Hold the line please, I’ll contact our information room and find out where the nearest
unit is.


3:26am Information room

"I received a telephone call on the internal line. The officer at the other end announced
himself as PC 1990 at Chelmsford.

Mr Bamber was worried about a phone call that he had received from his father at
Tolleshunt D'arcy. I cannot remember the direct speech that was used but I was informed
that the telephone call had been received from Mr Bamber and that Mr Bamber's daughter
had gone berserk and had taken one of his guns and that the line had gone dead.

PC 1990 also informed me that Mr BAMBER Junior had stated that there was a collection of
guns at the house. I recorded these as being Shotguns and 410's."


3:30am Witham Police Station

"About 03:30 am I was on duty at Witham Police Station in company Police Sergeant 36
BEWS and Police Constable 1509 MYALL. when I received a message over my personal radio,
from Chelmsford Police Station to the effect that a telephone call had been received from a
Mr Jeremy BAMBER, who had said that he had received a telephone call from his father Mr
Neville BAMBER of "White House Farm" Tolleshunt D'Arcy, saying that his sister was going
berserk and that she had a gun."


3:34am Control room

West: Hello

JB: Christ. You took a long time

West: I have contacted my Information room and Witham Police Station and a car is on its way
to your father's address at Tolleshunt D'Arcy. What's your father’s telephone number?

JB: Maldon 860204

West: How old is your father?

JB: Sixty two

West: Do you know who’s in the house?

JB: My father obviously , my mother and Sheila. Look, when my father rang me he sounded
terrified, I don’t think he's kidding about. I tried ringing him back and I can't get any reply.

West: Will you go to the house and wait for the Police officers and liaise with them there?

JB: Shall I go now?

West: Yes, the car from Witham won't take long. Can I have your telephone number?
JB: Goldhanger 88645


3:39am (or 3:19am)

JB: There’s something wrong at home. I don’t know what to do

Julie: Go to bed. bye honey

JB: I love you lots



3:35 - CA07 leaves Witham
3:41 - Jeremy leaves his house
3:47 - CA07 drives past Jeremy.
3:48 - CA07 arrives at White House Farm. Average journey speed 48mph
3:49 - Jeremy arrives at White House Farm. Average journey speed 31mph

Offline Jane

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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2019, 07:32:PM »
Mmm. "........Look, when my father phoned me he sounded terrified..........." But Jeremy claimed he didn't think the call was urgent and he didn't think it was worth calling 999 because it wouldn't have got them there any faster, yet here we have him berating West for keeping him waiting?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #57 on: October 08, 2019, 07:59:PM »
Mmm. "........Look, when my father phoned me he sounded terrified..........." But Jeremy claimed he didn't think the call was urgent and he didn't think it was worth calling 999 because it wouldn't have got them there any faster, yet here we have him berating West for keeping him waiting?

That's not what he allegedly said. According to Bews he asked Jeremy "Well why didn't you dial 999 instead of trying two police stations?" and Jeremy replied "I didn't think it would make any difference of how quickly you got here, I don't know how your system works".




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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #58 on: October 08, 2019, 08:11:PM »
That's not what he allegedly said. According to Bews he asked Jeremy "Well why didn't you dial 999 instead of trying two police stations?" and Jeremy replied "I didn't think it would make any difference of how quickly you got here, I don't know how your system works".
David can you remind us how long it took Jeremy Bamber in an emergency situation to telephone Police of any description from the time he purportedly received a call from his father requesting assistance?

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Re: Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?
« Reply #59 on: October 08, 2019, 08:14:PM »
That's not what he allegedly said. According to Bews he asked Jeremy "Well why didn't you dial 999 instead of trying two police stations?" and Jeremy replied "I didn't think it would make any difference of how quickly you got here, I don't know how your system works".


The fact stands that despite his father sounding terrified, Jeremy wasted MORE time by diddling his way through a telephone directory making abortive calls, but when questioned, claimed that he didn't think it was urgent. Frankly, I don't buy "I didn't think it would make any difference................I don't know how your system works". I doubt that anyone else, passed junior school age, would buy it, either.