Jeremy Bamber proven innocent?

[David1819]

While also seen to be driving slowly!

Based on my calculations he was driving at at average of 31mph. Which happens to coincide with Bews estimate of 30mph.

In Bills scenario Jeremy gets in the car ten minutes later. Jeremy has to make up for that ten mins with serious speeding. Bews was (by my calculations) going at around 45mph. Its not even possible for Bews to drive past him.

[lookout]

I don't recall that Jeremy asked Julie for advice. He stated that he "rang to hear a friendly voice"? I doubt, even if she'd contributed much to the conversation, that her tone would have been particularly friendly.

Because she was too spaced out to bother speaking hence telling JB to get back to bed.

[Caroline]

It also doesn't include the fact that Jeremy said he timed his call to West and claimed he was on the phone for 11 mins!

[lookout]

It also doesn't include the fact that Jeremy said he timed his call to West and claimed he was on the phone for 11 mins!

Which would make it right, after Nevill had previously rang at 03.26. According to West anyway.
03.26--03.37==11mins

[Jane]

Because she was too spaced out to bother speaking hence telling JB to get back to bed.

But it's not about Julie, is it? It wasn't Julie who committed murder. The post said Jeremy only rang her to seek advice but it wasn't something Jeremy ever claimed he did. It's also the case that if Julie said very little he had all the time in the world to ask advice. It seems to me that the conversation was all about Jeremy giving her information. SO unconcerned was he that he didn't even tell her that Sheila -allegedly- had a gun. Just for the record, I don't know that I'd be happy to be dragged out of bed at silly o'clock. What was she supposed to do with the information?

[Jane]

Which would make it right, after Nevill had previously rang at 03.26. According to West anyway.
03.26--03.37==11mins

And I reiterate. IF those timings are correct, Jeremy did NOT have time to get dressed, get into his car, drive at around 30mph, stop to put on a jumper, and get to WHF at the time he's reported to have arrived.

[Caroline]

Which would make it right, after Nevill had previously rang at 03.26. According to West anyway.
03.26--03.37==11mins

Eh?  - Jeremy timed HIS call to West as lasting 11 mins - the CT are suggesting Jeremy didn't call the police until 03:36 not 03:26! 03:36 + 11 mins is 03:47, so unless Scotty beamed him over to WHF the whole this is just nutty!

[lookout]

Eh?  - Jeremy timed HIS call to West as lasting 11 mins - the CT are suggesting Jeremy didn't call the police until 03:36 not 03:26! 03:36 + 11 mins is 03:47, so unless Scotty beamed him over to WHF the whole this is just nutty!

I was working on the 1 minute overlap of JB's call to EP.

[nugnug]

well according to the campaghn team its going to be submitted to the ccrc.

[Caroline]

I was working on the 1 minute overlap of JB's call to EP.

what one minute over lap? Read what Bill has posted!
03:23 approximately – phone call from Nevill Bamber to PC 1990 West at Chelmsford Town (CD)
03:26 call from PC West to Malcolm Bonnet – West passed on information from Nevill to Bonnet
03:25 - 03:30 Jeremy, alerted by a phone call from his father, tried to call Julie Mugford for advice, and finally roused her from bed at 03:30; spoke to her for 2-3 minutes.
03:30 PC West in radio conversation with PC Saxby at Witham – but Saxby and colleagues did not leave immediately to go to WHF
03:35 approximately – Jeremy Bamber telephoned PC West
03:36 PC West in conversation with Jeremy Bamber
03:37 PC West to PC Myall at Witham Police Station by telephone – Jeremy on-hold
03:39 PC West asked Jeremy to go to  WHF and tells

Nevill's call -03:26


Jeremy call - 03:36


The calls were 10 mins apart!

[Caroline]

well according to the campaghn team its going to be submitted to the ccrc.

That's the sad thing.

[lookout]

well according to the campaghn team its going to be submitted to the ccrc.

Yes it is, even if it shows up EP as to how thick they were. It cost a man his life though which is serious.

[Jane]

well according to the campaghn team its going to be submitted to the ccrc.

And the CT may be relied upon to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth......................?

[Caroline]

And the CT may be relied upon to tell the truth, the WHOLE truth......................?

God loves a trier 

[Caroline]

Yes it is, even if it shows up EP as to how thick they were. It cost a man his life though which is serious.

Shooting his family cost him his life, he wasn't convicted on phone call timings.