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Offline Bullseye

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #75 on: June 05, 2019, 12:16:PM »
I noticed that too, also on the other forum (the red forum I think you call it) which I have found to be VERY negative to this case, seems a bit quiet over there too, thought they would have lots to say but seems not ....,

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« Reply #76 on: June 05, 2019, 12:47:PM »
Yeah that’s what I mean, I heard he does support luke but in the background. That’s why I think it’s so important for him to do a quick 5 minute interview to tell his side. I don’t know about the dad, never heard anything about him in all the years, do does he think Luke is guilty then?

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« Reply #77 on: June 05, 2019, 02:03:PM »
Really, that would explain the silence over the years. Does put a lot of shade over the case if both the dad and bro think he did it, who knows him better than his own family. Plus Shane was his alibi. But I thought Shane support Luke? If that’s the case it does look bad!

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« Reply #78 on: June 05, 2019, 03:10:PM »
It’s quite simple, if Shane seen him in the house between 1700  and 1730 or when they had tea it could not have been Luke. If he could not confirm for sure he ‘seen’ Luke then all he need confirm is that tea was cook and ready when his mum got home. If Shane did not cook, his mum was at work then again Luke must have been home cooking the dinner and it could not be him.

I read over the years Shane has supported Luke, just not publicly which I can fully understand going by all the stuff that’s happened to his mum and Sandra over the years.

I’ve never read or heard anything about his dad.

Now things are picking up pace I’d hope they would show there support, if they do indeed still support Luke.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #79 on: June 05, 2019, 05:57:PM »
I have it on good info Shane and Dad both do.

you havent exactly got a good track on this.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2019, 10:41:PM »
Really, that would explain the silence over the years. Does put a lot of shade over the case if both the dad and bro think he did it, who knows him better than his own family. Plus Shane was his alibi. But I thought Shane support Luke? If that’s the case it does look bad!

in most campaghns the whole family doesnt speak its normally left up to one relative normally a mother or a sister

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #81 on: June 05, 2019, 11:14:PM »
They can still show support without speaking. But like I said I can understand why Shane would not be so public due to the backlash.

I just think they need to use all their cards if they want to prove his innocence and Shane could be holding the ace card, for me a whole lots depends on what he remembers. If Luke was there he is innocent if he wasn’t he could be guilty and his mum has definitely lied. He may not even remember for sure.

For the record I think she is telling the truth, but some back up would go a long way.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #82 on: June 06, 2019, 11:10:AM »
The personal circumstances of Shane and Luke's dad (which will remain private, since enough lives have already been ruined by this case) make it difficult for them to be publicly involved.

I don't think people really understand the damage these things do to family relationships - it's not as simple as whether people "support" the convicted person or not - there are many other factors which come into play. Corinne is fully supportive of Shane staying out of the public eye - as she has put it on many occasions, they have wrecked one of her sons' lives, if they can possibly avoid it, they're not giving them the chance to wreck her other son's life. Shane had to move out of the area at the time because the threats were so bad.

Corinne has publicly served Luke's sentence with him - asking his dad and brother to do the same is akin to saying everyone in the whole family should be put up as targets for a baying mob, the vast majority of which, for 16 years, have been 100% negative to suggestions that Luke is innocent. Should his dad's business be trashed? His brother's? Is that what people mean by "showing support"? For them to comment publicly would put them at the same risks as Corinne has faced all these years.


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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #83 on: June 06, 2019, 11:26:AM »
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It’s quite simple, if Shane seen him in the house between 1700  and 1730 or when they had tea it could not have been Luke. If he could not confirm for sure he ‘seen’ Luke then all he need confirm is that tea was cook and ready when his mum got home. If Shane did not cook, his mum was at work then again Luke must have been home cooking the dinner and it could not be him.

Which is exactly why the police refused to accept the statements of the burnt pies. Looking back at the interviews, it's clear that, from the moment the Family Liaison officer stepped foot inside the Mitchell house, she was there to destroy Luke's alibi. She was telling Shane to "picture" things in his head just a few days after the murder - if that's not a blatant attempt to influence recall, I don't know what is. The trauma of the police treatment of Shane (in particular the interrogation on 14th April 2004) would have been enough to break any man - a point DF made very strongly at appeal. His treatment on the stand compounded that trauma - right up to the point where they thrust pictures of Jodi's naked, mutilated body in front of him (without warning) Shane was very clear that he did see Luke that evening, but the police wouldn't accept his statements and kept "putting words in his mouth." After the shock of the photographs, he was forced to carry on giving evidence - any psychologist will tell you that a witness will become extremely manipulable immediately after such a shock because they can't think straight.

It is utterly disgusting that this sort of treatment is allowed. Having caused such shock and distress, the prosecution QC moved straight onto questions about masturbating to pornographic images on the internet - can you imagine trying to make any sense of that in those circumstances? 

And, before the inevitable comments about him "admitting" that he was masturbating, he didn't. I have the court transcripts - it was put to him that he might have been "doing something else" whilst looking at the images ... Shane agreed that he "may have been" - that's it. We now, know, of course, that the "pornographic images" were almost certainly pop-ups, on screen for a few seconds, so he wasn't "watching porn" as has been claimed for all these years.

That said, is it any surprise that Shane just wanted to disappear and have the whole thing go away? It's not about believing Luke to be guilty, it's about self-preservation - Shane's life still had to go on out here after such intense media coverage and such personal trauma and humiliation.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #84 on: June 06, 2019, 11:30:AM »
Forgot to say, Luke's dad has always supported him.

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« Reply #85 on: June 06, 2019, 02:29:PM »
I have always said I completely understand Shane keeping out the public eye and did think he supported Luke. What I meant by showing support is things like helping out now and again behind the scene with the campaign, visiting Luke etc not standing up in front of the news papers making statements. But I just think now would be a good time for him to clarify the mess that has been made with his statement, they were totally out of order the way he was treated on the stand and he didn’t get the chance to tell his side like he wanted. There was no evidence against Luke, in the jury’s eyes his brother could not confirm he saw Luke, I think this had a lot to do with him being found guilty. Also all the armchair detectives I’ve encountered over the years always use this as their ammunition, be good to disarm them once and for all. He wouldn’t even need to go on camera, a written statement that James English could read out now that he has more people interested. But again I fully understand if he was not comfortable doing that. Safety first.

As for his dad, thanks for clarifying he does support Luke. Again I understand him keeping out the campaign, enough life’s have been pulled apart.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #86 on: June 07, 2019, 12:13:PM »
See, this is how it’s been since Shane left the stand. now I don’t know what to think. Either he got harassed on the stand and was not able to provide his side correctly or he saw the pics and would no longer lie believing his bro to be guilty.

2 totally contradicting sides here, Shane has always supported Luke or Shane openly confirms his brothers guilt.

Even more reason for him to provide a statement of fact I’d say. If you say he is that open perhaps it’s best to get it from the horses mouth.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2019, 08:20:PM »
Yes I do. Shane was virtually disowned by Corrine for not going along with it. Dad doesn't even visit. Also pornographic "pop-ups" don't pop up unless you're viewing pornographic websites. He was at home watching porn and masturbating, and admitted to it. Unsure why Sandra is now trying to argue that Shane wasn't watching porn when he openly admitted that's what he was doing? Had his bedroom door open to listen out. Luke wasn't there. Luke has no alibi and his attempt at one was torn apart at trial. It's not rocket science.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #88 on: June 07, 2019, 08:22:PM »
Yes I do. Shane was virtually disowned by Corrine for not going along with it. Dad doesn't even visit. Also pornographic "pop-ups" don't pop up unless you're viewing pornographic websites. He was at home watching porn and masturbating, and admitted to it. Unsure why Sandra is now trying to argue that Shane wasn't watching porn when he openly admitted that's what he was doing? Had his bedroom door open to listen out. Luke wasn't there. Luke has no alibi and his attempt at one was torn apart at trial. It's not rocket science.

I’m a bit confused, do you know shane and the family and what are your sources for knowing his dad doesn’t visit.

We’re you at the trial?




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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #89 on: June 07, 2019, 08:31:PM »
He cried in the witness box at what his brother had done when he seen the images. Luke never shed a single tear at any point. Not at images of his murdered girlfriend or even at the sight of her body. Don't take my word for it. Feel free to get in touch with Shane. He openly tells people his brother is guilty lol.

Maybe he cried because of the awful scene he was being made to look at.

I think Sandra has more than explained why Luke didn’t show any emotion . None of what you says has any baring on wether he’s guilty or innocent.

Umm where we would ask Shane anything. As far as I can tell he is protecting himself from people like you by not getting involved in what other people think or say.