Re: The murder of Jodi Jones

[Roch]

He runs a private company that advocates for the use of polygraphs lol

Yes, has he cornered the market so to speak or was he simply prominent in that era? Where there other testers around during the same era? I did do some searches on him a while back.

[Roch]

I see Mullins also tested Ricky Percival (Essex Boys).

[Bullseye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwORkeCzxks


I really don't understand the point of the reenactment of Bryson's sighting. If anything they support it, as AB's sighting was slightly off in parts, much like this girl's.  It just strengthens the fact it could have been Luke and Jodi despite the small inconsistencies.

Maybe trying to show there is reasonable doubt. Not sure why they did not show the 2 women that saw him at the other end of the path too.   I think there was a confirmed sighting of him later at the other end of the path around 6pm, by a boy that knew him? But can’t remember if that was used this in court, if a statement was made to police or was that just hearsay?

[marty]

Randomly mention another suspect who can't be named who they haven't introduced or mentioned any evidence against at all. Why even keep that in? Doubt he exists. Either that or they mean Condom Man.

Did they not mention condom man as that? Think it must be the same person who confessed and confessed to being stocky man also. They never mentioned any of the jonses by name except jodi either. Just said he kept coming back to them. Hands deffo tied in a lot of aspects.

[WakeyWakey]

Is the begging bowl out yet?

of course

change.org petition has this tagged on:
In the spirit of true justice and transparency, we, the undersigned, demand that all evidence and information be released to an independent panel (not the SCCRC) for scrutiny, comment and recommendations. The people are willing to raise funds to contribute to the cost of such an inquiry.

and there is a seperate gofundme currently at £6,000+ with the vague aim of "getting corinne back on her feet"
Corinne Mitchell's life was ruined by a justice system gone wrong. Although she has now been housed, this fundraiser is aimed at helping get Corinne back on her feet.

it really is shameless. i wonder how many people putting a fiver in know why it is she had to sell the family house (for those unaware, it had nothin to do with this case)

[Roch]

Wish I'd paid more attention of the list of names.

[Steve_uk]

Episode 2 seems to have been pulled from Channel 5's website. Would be nice if one of the accused have finally taken legal action.

It's here: https://youtu.be/WwORkeCzxks

Does anyone know about the girl eyewitnesses Rosemary Walsh and Lorraine Fleming? What were the circumstances in which Jodie left her house that night? Did her sister's boyfriend, Steven Kelly, have an alibi? What was the timeline of Luke Mitchell's movements that night and if he was the perpetrator would he have had time to clean up without anyone's knowledge? What about the lack of incriminating forensic evidence at the crime scene, which the jury must have disregarded at the January 2005 trial?

[guest7363]

Amateur hour. Showed Joey's name. Hopefully he sues all involved. 

Also, these "Private Investigators" uncovered nothing. They didn't uncover any of these suspects. This list was given to them by Sandra Lean.

And I'd like to know what "legal reason" they can't name Joseph, but can name Ferris, Dickie and Kane.

Falconer being referred to only as Condom Man is also puzzling.

Ive only watched the first episode, I was going to ask has it showed anything new or what you didn’t know about?  Must admit I hope the remaining episodes are better than the first.  When I found out who did the Polygraph tests this answered for me why and how they passed it.

[guest7363]

Ive only watched the first episode, I was going to ask has it showed anything new or what you didn’t know about?  Must admit I hope the remaining episodes are better than the first.  When I found out who did the Polygraph tests this answered for me why and how they passed it.

A couple of things I’ve picked up, he was supplying Cannabis to Jodi and friends at School?  He was also seeing another girl at the time?  He didn’t testify at trial and his mother gave an Alibi for him, that he was cooking, I read that his brother said he wasn’t cooking but watching porn (or have I got that wrong?) was it the brother watching porn?  I’m trying to read and get a better balance, because obviously the episode is Pro Mitchel.  It’s says Jodi was sexually assaulted, was she raped does anyone know?

[guest7363]

A couple of things I’ve picked up, he was supplying Cannabis to Jodi and friends at School?  He was also seeing another girl at the time?  He didn’t testify at trial and his mother gave an Alibi for him, that he was cooking, I read that his brother said he wasn’t cooking but watching porn (or have I got that wrong?) was it the brother watching porn?  I’m trying to read and get a better balance, because obviously the episode is Pro Mitchel.  It’s says Jodi was sexually assaulted, was she raped does anyone know?

Right I’ve got that better sorry.

Mitchell's brother testified he had been viewing internet pornography in the house at the time Mitchell said he had been there; under cross examination Mitchell's brother said he would only have done this if he thought the house to be otherwise empty. Mitchell's brother said he had not seen Mitchell in the house that afternoon, thereby failing to corroborate his defence of being in the family home at the time of the murder.[8]


Right how does Corrie get past this one if she says they were cooking and the brother says they wasn’t?

[WakeyWakey]

Right how does Corrie get past this one if she says they were cooking and the brother says they wasn’t?

nailed it .

she doesnt.

same for sandra. this is never address and its crucial

[Steve_uk]

Ive only watched the first episode, I was going to ask has it showed anything new or what you didn’t know about?  Must admit I hope the remaining episodes are better than the first.  When I found out who did the Polygraph tests this answered for me why and how they passed it.

I was thinking about his upbringing and how he came to dabble in Satan, if that's the insinuation. No father figure, no routine, no boundaries, no role model of any kind really, a knife carried in self-defence in what seems on the surface to be a quiet middle-class area within commuting distance of Edinburgh. I could see him working as a barista in Costa Coffee, hitching up with a pretty girl and settling down to fatherhood within a stable community.

Instead he has spent 17 years behind bars, the grinding monotony of prison routine having a deleterious effect on physical if not mental health. The feral youth may have been tamed or the attributes merely deferred as the public facade masks private despair. In a circumstantial case one bonds the links in the chain: the finding of the body, the relationship with the deceased, the eyewitness evidence, the dubious alibi, leaving the final decision to a jury of his peers. Yet as the years go by and the doubts refuse to subside it may well suit the Scottish Establishment to find some way of release, if only to buttress their instinct of self-preservation and not through genuine belief in a miscarriage of justice.

[guest7363]

Shane admitted in court he only agreed that Luke was burning dinner after Corinne "reminded him" (told him so.) He said he didn't remember seeing Luke and wouldn't have been watching porn if he thought anyone was in.

He also told police he believes Luke could be responsible.

Shane doesn't support his brothers claims of innocence.

Thanks, I’m not trying to be biased, but I’ve only watched the first episode and it didn’t sit right with the Mother, I didn’t know anything about this case before, but the more I’ve delved into the Mother it gets worse than I thought.


How true is this does anyone know?
The Jacket and missing knife, why did the Mother replace them with the exact same ones 'He Lost' AFTER the Murder


I’d just like to add, my uttermost thoughts are with Jodi’s family, how they cope with something like this is horrendous, the fact these family’s have to live through appeal after appeal and then get documentaries made about it from so called experts, either proclaiming new evidence or revisiting the case and offering nothing new,  other than fuel to stir up public emotions and hoping for support from people who don’t know the case.

[Steve_uk]

Steven Kelly had 2 alibis, his dad and also Janine Jones.

Do you mean these two gave him two separate alibis? There's a report here of his court testimony: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4085983.stm

[Steve_uk]

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/shane-mitchell-what-evidence-did-luke-mitchells-brother-give-and-why-was-it-crucial-to-jodi-jones-murder-trial-3148506

Internet history confirmed porn sites were accessed from a computer in his bedroom between 4.53pm and 5.16pm on the evening Jodi was murdered, contradicting the alibi Corinne pressured Shane into giving.

Could somebody cut and paste this article as I can't access.