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Offline David1819

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1740 on: October 07, 2019, 09:56:PM »
That would depend on the crime.

Ian Huntley and Levi Bellfield make no secret about what they done. According to Stones legal team, Bellfield has now confessed to the Chillingden murders also.

According to what inmates have told the WDOJ. Steven Avery was open about his guilt before Making A Murderer aired. Steven Avery didn't know he would become a Netflix sensation and when that happens prison secrets no longer become a thing.
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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1741 on: October 07, 2019, 10:08:PM »
Ian Huntley and Levi Bellfield make no secret about what they done. According to Stones legal team, Bellfield has now confessed to the Chillingden murders also.

According to what inmates have told the WDOJ. Steven Avery was open about his guilt before Making A Murderer aired. Steven Avery didn't know he would become a Netflix sensation and when that happens prison secrets no longer become a thing.

Well, that may or may not be so because inmates are not the most reliable sources.
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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1742 on: October 07, 2019, 10:20:PM »
That would depend on the crime.

yes. i hear those who murder children, sex criminals, or those who kill partners in jealous rage are not look upon too kindly

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1743 on: October 07, 2019, 10:36:PM »
Well, that may or may not be so because inmates are not the most reliable sources.

In Jail were inmates are waiting trial and they know they can get a plea bargain if they grass each other up is one thing. But if both are in prison and are already sentenced there is no incentive in that setting.

I could easily imagine Luke Mitchell and Nat Fraser having a laugh together about what they done. While helping each-other out in their SCCRC submissions.

I could easily imagine Ian Huntley and the psycho's among him all sharing the grim details about what they done to amuse themselves.

These people are not confined among a righteous and upstanding population.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1744 on: October 07, 2019, 11:18:PM »
In Jail were inmates are waiting trial and they know they can get a plea bargain if they grass each other up is one thing. But if both are in prison and are already sentenced there is no incentive in that setting.

I could easily imagine Luke Mitchell and Nat Fraser having a laugh together about what they done. While helping each-other out in their SCCRC submissions.

I could easily imagine Ian Huntley and the psycho's among him all sharing the grim details about what they done to amuse themselves.

These people are not confined among a righteous and upstanding population.

This sounds familiar!
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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1745 on: October 07, 2019, 11:21:PM »
yes. i hear those who murder children, sex criminals, or those who kill partners in jealous rage are not look upon too kindly

Exactly, so if you're in prison for a long while, you don't want to be associated with these criminals and there is no incentive to admit these crimes.
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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1746 on: October 07, 2019, 11:52:PM »
Also, not to forget this doesn't just concern Luke.
There is his mother to consider.
This mother who has stuck by him, fought the cause.
Is there really any choice - for him to admit guilt.
Certainly not whilst his mother is still alive.
The admission of his guilt, in turn could very well,
lead to her incarceration also.
IMO of course.
There is nothing that shows innocence, due to the non admittance of guilt.
There are so many other factors - some of which have been
highlighted.
Remembering here also that every admission of guilt does not
lead to freedom.
Luke is not even eligible to be considered for parole until he has
served a minimum of 20yrs.
And even then, if there were to be any admission, it does not mean
he will be released.
All in all, at this point in time - an admission,  would be somewhat
futile and certainly damaging to his mother.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1747 on: October 08, 2019, 08:47:AM »
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Also, not to forget this doesn't just concern Luke.
There is his mother to consider.
This mother who has stuck by him, fought the cause.
Is there really any choice - for him to admit guilt.
Certainly not whilst his mother is still alive.
The admission of his guilt, in turn could very well,
lead to her incarceration also.
IMO of course.

The same, of course, would be true of any other mother (or partner)  who had "stuck by" a son (or partner)  who may have been responsible for murder - perhaps by being dishonest or misleading about that son/partner's movements, whereabouts, actions etc in order to avoid suspicion falling on that son/partner.

I'm not, of course, talking about family members who knew nothing about what their loved one had done and therefore told no lies or misled anyone - I'm thinking people like Sonia Sutcliff who, it seems, had no idea what her husband did when he was away. I'm talking specifically about those who knowingly concealed the truth (or their suspicions) in order to protect a loved one.

Before the inevitable howls of protest, I'm not talking about any particular person or family - I'm just making the point that the argument Parky makes here could just as easily apply to others. For nearly every innocent, incarcerated person later released, there was someone else who committed the crime (the exceptions being where there was no crime), so there is at least the possibility that someone else (or elses) either knew, or had some inkling, and kept schtum.

Sometimes, there are understandable reasons - for example, the children of Fred and Rose West who were too terrified to voice their suspicions. Only when the actions of their parents became known to the authorities were those grown up children safe enough to speak out.

So my point is a relatively simple one - the argument made here by Parky to suggest a reason why Luke may not confess (other than that he has nothing to confess to) could just as easily apply in a number of other circumstances, to other people.

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1748 on: October 08, 2019, 05:36:PM »
Tim Hennis had a doppelgänger near the crime scene. Where and who is the Luke doppelgänger? 


It's discussed from 40:00 here: https://youtu.be/uK7OVE_5L7Y

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Re: Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1749 on: October 08, 2019, 07:21:PM »
It's discussed from 40:00 here: https://youtu.be/uK7OVE_5L7Y

Anyone can allege he exists. He needs to be presented in the flesh.
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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1750 on: October 08, 2019, 07:36:PM »
Luke swaggered about Polmont YO smirking at anyone who looked at him and told his fellow beasts and new inmates that he ran the hall. Lapping up the notoriety of a crime that he apparently isn't capable of. Also wrote violent poetry about killing people and getting revenge on Jodi's family, and requested Sanatic books a few years ago.

He requested a copy of the Satanic Bible to read in prison. A book that encourages human sacrifice. Here is a quote from it.

"Who, then, would be considered a fit and proper human sacrifice, and how is one qualified to pass judgment on such a person?" The answer is brutally simple. Anyone who has unjustiy wronged you."

In the highly unlikely event he gets a re-trial that will be used against him. What an own goal!

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1751 on: October 09, 2019, 07:44:AM »
weeks before the murder, such as attacking and injuring people with knives, experiencing psychotic episodes and smoking large quantities of cannabis, it is evident that the person who was seen following Jodi and has confessed is indeed
An interesting quote from another forum. Wonder who they are talking about?

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1752 on: October 09, 2019, 08:50:AM »
He requested a copy of the Satanic Bible to read in prison. A book that encourages human sacrifice. Here is a quote from it.

"Who, then, would be considered a fit and proper human sacrifice, and how is one qualified to pass judgment on such a person?" The answer is brutally simple. Anyone who has unjustiy wronged you."

In the highly unlikely event he gets a re-trial that will be used against him. What an own goal!

have ever actully read that book.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1753 on: October 09, 2019, 08:53:AM »
weeks before the murder, such as attacking and injuring people with knives, experiencing psychotic episodes and smoking large quantities of cannabis, it is evident that the person who was seen following Jodi and has confessed is indeed
An interesting quote from another forum. Wonder who they are talking about?




I'd stick my neck out here and say that the owner of the used condom was suspicious.

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Re: The murder of Jodi Jones
« Reply #1754 on: October 09, 2019, 08:55:AM »



I'd stick my neck out here and say that the owner of the used condom was suspicious.
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well he failed to come forward when asked to.