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Offline mike tesko

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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #90 on: April 12, 2018, 04:54:AM »
Do Bruno rifles and a Anshuzt rifle have compatibility with regard to 'Moderator'? Interchangeable?

Yes, both have a universal type thread on the end of their barrels!
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #91 on: April 12, 2018, 05:00:AM »
Do Bruno rifles and a Anshuzt rifle have compatibility with regard to 'Moderator'? Interchangeable?

Holy Moly! very serious.
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #92 on: April 12, 2018, 05:03:AM »
Holy Moly! very serious.

The moderator was Pargeters!!!!!
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #93 on: April 12, 2018, 05:04:AM »
The moderator was Pargeters!!!!!

that left 2 weeks earlier.
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #94 on: April 12, 2018, 05:24:AM »
Because the moderators were the same, ANTHONY took the wrong 'Moderator' leaving 'his' Moderator behind at WHF.
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #95 on: April 12, 2018, 05:24:AM »
I think that the rifle that was captured in one of the crime scene photographs may well have been Anthony Pargeters .22 Bruno rifle!

According to what DS Davidson (SOCO) told the COLP investigators during his police interview, he told them some paint had been found on the end of a guns barrel! COLP put it to him, was he referring to the paint being on the end of the Sound Moderator, and Davidson responded by saying 'NO', he said, the paint was found on the end of a guns barrel, not a silencer!

If the barrel of Pargeters Bruno rifle had come into contact with the kitchen aga and scratched it, this of course might cast doubt on the possibility that the Sound Moderator had been fitted to the anshuzt rifles barrel at the time Neville Bamber was attacked and killed in the kitchen! But if true, where was the Sound Moderator that was normally fitted to the end of the Bruno rifles barrel?

This is where DS Jones comes into the picture, because on the first morning of the investigation he returns to the scene and he takes a total of 4 exhibits from the scene, albeit one of these exhibits was a photograph he took inside the downstairs toilet where Anthony Pargeter normally kept his rifle ammunitions and his Sound Moderator! Jones took possession of. Sound Moderator on that occasion, I can't help but think that the Sound Moderator (SBJ/1) he took was the one belonging to Anthony Pargeters Bruno rifle, which either must have become detached, or it had been removed from the end of the barrel of his rifle, at some point after the shooting incident in the kitchen when Sheila got shot during a struggle with one of the firearms officers..

My informant told me that Sheila was shot when a firearms officer came around the opening edge of the internal kitchen door after Neville Bambers body had been toppled over, and that during the struggle that Sheila appeared to pull the muzzle end of the guns barrel in towards her throat, and that this was how she received the initial non fatal shot to which all the police radio message log contents refer to between 7.35am and 8.10am (two bodies downstairs in kitchen upon entry)...

I was led to believe that the weapon used was a police issue gun, but it now seems as though the initial shot fired across and into Sheila's neck could have been a shot fired via the Bruno rifle at a time when it's Sound Moderator was fixed to its barrel! There exists a sort of circular bruise or an abrasion around the lower neck wound on Sheila Caffell's neck which I have always believed had been made at the time the first shot had been inflicted! I now realise that Sheila could have been shot by the Pargeter rifle with its Sound Moderator attached, during the struggle with the police in the kitchen, and that the muzzle of Anthony Pargeters sound moderator made the mark in question!

This has got to be true, otherwise why would there be a note about a rifle that was captured in the crime scene in the kitchen not to be mentioned by anybody in their notes, or witness statements?

That rifle was almost certainly the weapon used to inflict that first shot into Sheila Caffell's neck, more importantly it can't have been the anshuzt rifle because that was found upstairs in the possession of Sheila's body on the main bedroom floor..
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #96 on: April 12, 2018, 05:30:AM »
Because the moderators were the same, ANTHONY took the wrong 'Moderator' leaving 'his' Moderator behind at WHF.

It's possible that there was a mix up involving the two different identical looking Parker Hale Sound Moderators, one belonging to the Bamber owned Anshuzt rifle, and the other belonging to the Pargeter owned Bruno rifle!
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #97 on: April 12, 2018, 05:33:AM »
My attention is now focussed on the remnants of the bullet (PV/20) linked to 'the non fatal shot' across and into Sheila's neck! During autopsy performed on the 7th August 1985, pathologist, Peter Venesis, removed a small fragment of that bullet! However, by the time 'it' arrived at the Lab' for the attention of the prosecution experts attention, 'it' (PV/20) had grown back into becoming a WHOLE bullet..

So, it now seems almost certain the police tampered with the small fragmented piece of bullet recovered from Sheila's neck, and at some point prior to the 20th September 1985, the rifle was test fired with the same type of ammunition used in the shootings, and that after the test fire, a recovered whole bullet replaced the small fragment, and they sought to get confirmation that the same gun had fired the two shots which wounded and had killed Sheila Caffell, provable by a reliance upon dishonest expert opinion, where he would claim that both bullets (PV/19 and PV/20) had been fired from the same anshuzt rifle, without letting on that the original small fragmented piece of bullet (the original PV/20) had in fact been fired by another gun (the one captured in a crime scene photograph taken in the kitchen)!
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #98 on: April 12, 2018, 05:46:AM »
If ANTHONY P had taken the wrong 'moderator' two weeks prior.

Which is entirely possible as the 'Moderators' were 'interchangeable'

then Moderator left at WHF could have been contaminated by 'all sorts', as it could have been ANTHONY P's moderator.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2018, 05:48:AM by Nigel »
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #99 on: April 12, 2018, 05:52:AM »
There appears to be a link involving the second rifle having been photographed downstairs in the kitchen, a rifle which had some paint ingrained in the end of its barrel, 'its' Sound Moderator that DS Jones seized from somewhere downstairs at the scene on the first morning of the police investigation! The fact that the photograph which Jones had taken inside the downstairs toilet where Anthony Pargeter normally kept his rifle and Sound Moderator, that has been 'destroyed', and missing photographic negatives from a strip of negates when the cupboard under the stairs was being photographed, and a bullet (PV/20) which grew whole again, from a small fragment of a bullet, the replacement allowing the ballistic expert to conclude that Sheila had died as a result of being shot twice by the same gun, when all along she was shot by two different guns!
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #100 on: April 12, 2018, 05:56:AM »
If ANTHONY P had taken the wrong 'moderator' two weeks prior.

Which is entirely possible as the 'Moderators' were 'interchangeable'

then Moderator left at WHF could have been contaminated by 'all sorts', as it could have been ANTHONY P's moderator.

It is highly likely that there was a mix up involving these two identical looking Parker Hale Silencers!

The one exhibited at trial had 17 internalised baffle plates, compatible with the model purchased by Pargeter in 1980, and also compatible with the Bamber owned anshuzt rifle...
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #101 on: April 12, 2018, 10:37:AM »
Mike,

Is this a Bruno rifle or a Anshuzt rifle?

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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #102 on: April 12, 2018, 10:40:AM »
Mike,

Is this a Bruno rifle or a Anshuzt rifle?
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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #103 on: April 12, 2018, 10:56:AM »
Both Anshuzt rifle in those photos.

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Re: The Search for the Truth - the 'hidden agenda'..
« Reply #104 on: April 12, 2018, 11:02:AM »
Both Anshuzt rifle in those photos.

thanks David, and Wolf or Anshuzt in these photographs?

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