Questions for Mike Tesko

[vidvic]

Dear Mike,

I have read with great interest some of your posts on this forum over the last few days.

Here are your postings. Some have the questions, your answers in bold.;

But why? (Do you want to take this to a more appropriate thread?)
... When I spoke to Jeremy originally about this matter, he actually said, ' Clever b---s---d', as though he was surprised by the ease with which my psychic friend interpreted the note

« on: May 31, 2011, 10:36:PM »
Quote from: Rochford Shields on May 31, 2011, 10:29:PM
Mike, have you ever broached the psychic's opinion with Jeremy?  And do you have an opinion on their view re Jeremy?
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I only ever broached the subject once with Jeremy, and that was in an indirect way when I was once speaking to him about the so called suicide note (rows and columns of capital letters) - "Now Make Dad, Go Downstairs, Bedroom Phone Lead unplugged, Get Jeremy to Come To Farm", I told Jeremy that my friend interpreted the note to mean this, and Jeremy appeared shocked at first and then he beamed back one of those massive grins that are characteristic of him, and he simply said, words to the effect, my friend and I should keep such comments to ourselves...

Back on the Jeremy trail, I too came across someone who thought Jeremy somehow put Shelia up to the killings.
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My friend says that Jeremy answered all the questions truthfully and honestly when he took the lie detector test - but Jeremy was not asked directly if he put up Sheila to shoot everyone at some stage. Friends says Jeremy did receive call from Ralph, at which stage it was the signal that Sheila might have started to carry out the shootings as she had been primed to do...

Yes, psychic friend is of the opinion that Jeremy encouraged Sheila to do it, friend says Jeremy was not there when family shot, and he did not pay anyone to carry out the shootings, friend says there was no need to pay anyone, Sheila was primed to carry out the shootings, and she snapped when her parents started talking about getting her some help to look after the children, or that foster parents could be found to take care of them...

So on this basis I have some questions for you;

a) Am I right to assume that indirectly you believe Jeremy bamber to be the cause of these murders?
b) You have described Jeremy Bamber as a friend. If JB was your friend, you've dedicated vast amounts of your time over the years to defending him, do you not feel a little 'mislead'
c) Would you not agree that Julie Mugfords testimony is now completely believable.
d) Would you not agree that the families feeling 'that something wasn't right' is now perfectly valid.
e) Would you not agree that you should have disclosed those conversations with JB earlier as I firmly believe you sincerely seek the truth, why did you not consider those conversations relevant sooner?

I obviously have many more questions but am a little surprised that these postings haven't attracted anymore of a reaction from other members of the forum.

[Alias]

Dear Mike,

I have read with great interest some of your posts on this forum over the last few days.

Here are your postings. Some have the questions, your answers in bold.;

But why? (Do you want to take this to a more appropriate thread?)
... When I spoke to Jeremy originally about this matter, he actually said, ' Clever b---s---d', as though he was surprised by the ease with which my psychic friend interpreted the note

« on: May 31, 2011, 10:36:PM »
Quote from: Rochford Shields on May 31, 2011, 10:29:PM
Mike, have you ever broached the psychic's opinion with Jeremy?  And do you have an opinion on their view re Jeremy?
--------------------------

I only ever broached the subject once with Jeremy, and that was in an indirect way when I was once speaking to him about the so called suicide note (rows and columns of capital letters) - "Now Make Dad, Go Downstairs, Bedroom Phone Lead unplugged, Get Jeremy to Come To Farm", I told Jeremy that my friend interpreted the note to mean this, and Jeremy appeared shocked at first and then he beamed back one of those massive grins that are characteristic of him, and he simply said, words to the effect, my friend and I should keep such comments to ourselves...

Back on the Jeremy trail, I too came across someone who thought Jeremy somehow put Shelia up to the killings.
----------------------

My friend says that Jeremy answered all the questions truthfully and honestly when he took the lie detector test - but Jeremy was not asked directly if he put up Sheila to shoot everyone at some stage. Friends says Jeremy did receive call from Ralph, at which stage it was the signal that Sheila might have started to carry out the shootings as she had been primed to do...

Yes, psychic friend is of the opinion that Jeremy encouraged Sheila to do it, friend says Jeremy was not there when family shot, and he did not pay anyone to carry out the shootings, friend says there was no need to pay anyone, Sheila was primed to carry out the shootings, and she snapped when her parents started talking about getting her some help to look after the children, or that foster parents could be found to take care of them...

So on this basis I have some questions for you;

a) Am I right to assume that indirectly you believe Jeremy bamber to be the cause of these murders?
b) You have described Jeremy Bamber as a friend. If JB was your friend, you've dedicated vast amounts of your time over the years to defending him, do you not feel a little 'mislead'
c) Would you not agree that Julie Mugfords testimony is now completely believable.
d) Would you not agree that the families feeling 'that something wasn't right' is now perfectly valid.
e) Would you not agree that you should have disclosed those conversations with JB earlier as I firmly believe you sincerely seek the truth, why did you not consider those conversations relevant sooner?

I obviously have many more questions but am a little surprised that these postings haven't attracted anymore of a reaction from other members of the forum.

I can only speak for myself. I was quite shocked when I read this, and asked (not very politely) whether this was the Twilight Zone.
How can you argue rationally when a so-called psychic is involved? This psychic, by the way, conveniently just left out one letter from the note:
Now Make Dad, Go Downstairs, Bedroom Phone Lead Unplugged, Get Jeremy to Come To Farm

A "G" is missing... + a "T" has been added.

I can´t take this seriously, it makes no sense whatsoever in my opinion.

This is Mike Tesko´s board, he can write what he wants; but I have to say that I am puzzled, to put it mildly.

[bob]

Dear Mike,

I have read with great interest some of your posts on this forum over the last few days.

Here are your postings. Some have the questions, your answers in bold.;

But why? (Do you want to take this to a more appropriate thread?)
... When I spoke to Jeremy originally about this matter, he actually said, ' Clever b---s---d', as though he was surprised by the ease with which my psychic friend interpreted the note

« on: May 31, 2011, 10:36:PM »
Quote from: Rochford Shields on May 31, 2011, 10:29:PM
Mike, have you ever broached the psychic's opinion with Jeremy?  And do you have an opinion on their view re Jeremy?
--------------------------

I only ever broached the subject once with Jeremy, and that was in an indirect way when I was once speaking to him about the so called suicide note (rows and columns of capital letters) - "Now Make Dad, Go Downstairs, Bedroom Phone Lead unplugged, Get Jeremy to Come To Farm", I told Jeremy that my friend interpreted the note to mean this, and Jeremy appeared shocked at first and then he beamed back one of those massive grins that are characteristic of him, and he simply said, words to the effect, my friend and I should keep such comments to ourselves...

Back on the Jeremy trail, I too came across someone who thought Jeremy somehow put Shelia up to the killings.
----------------------

My friend says that Jeremy answered all the questions truthfully and honestly when he took the lie detector test - but Jeremy was not asked directly if he put up Sheila to shoot everyone at some stage. Friends says Jeremy did receive call from Ralph, at which stage it was the signal that Sheila might have started to carry out the shootings as she had been primed to do...

Yes, psychic friend is of the opinion that Jeremy encouraged Sheila to do it, friend says Jeremy was not there when family shot, and he did not pay anyone to carry out the shootings, friend says there was no need to pay anyone, Sheila was primed to carry out the shootings, and she snapped when her parents started talking about getting her some help to look after the children, or that foster parents could be found to take care of them...

So on this basis I have some questions for you;

a) Am I right to assume that indirectly you believe Jeremy bamber to be the cause of these murders?
b) You have described Jeremy Bamber as a friend. If JB was your friend, you've dedicated vast amounts of your time over the years to defending him, do you not feel a little 'mislead'
c) Would you not agree that Julie Mugfords testimony is now completely believable.
d) Would you not agree that the families feeling 'that something wasn't right' is now perfectly valid.
e) Would you not agree that you should have disclosed those conversations with JB earlier as I firmly believe you sincerely seek the truth, why did you not consider those conversations relevant sooner?

I obviously have many more questions but am a little surprised that these postings haven't attracted anymore of a reaction from other members of the forum.

I can only speak for myself. I was quite shocked when I read this, and asked (not very politely) whether this was the Twilight Zone.
How can you argue rationally when a so-called psychic is involved? This psychic, by the way, conveniently just left out one letter from the note:
Now Make Dad, Go Downstairs, Bedroom Phone Lead Unplugged, Get Jeremy to Come To Farm

A "G" is missing... + a "T" has been added.

I can´t take this seriously, it makes no sense whatsoever in my opinion.

This is Mike Tesko´s board, he can write what he wants; but I have to say that I am puzzled, to put it mildly.

Spot on Abs. Ali Bongo doesn't even seem to have bothered to put much effort in - the solution to the puzzle is clearly:

No Mistaking David Boutflour's Grand Design: Police Lie Unto God - Get Jeremy Convicted Forever.

I should imagine he'll be freed later this afternoon now I've cracked it 

[vidvic]

Made me laugh Bob.......

[grahameb]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

[vidvic]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

The fact that JM said that JB told her a hitman did it has always made her testimony MORE believable in my eyes, rather than her just simply blaming JB.

Would you not agree that my questions to Mike are fair?

[Alias]

+1 bob, you nailed it! 

[grahameb]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

The fact that JM said that JB told her a hitman did it has always made her testimony MORE believable in my eyes, rather than her just simply blaming JB.

Would you not agree that my questions to Mike are fair?

But you didn't answer my question vidvic. This man said Jeremy put the murder into Sheila's mind. If he did that then Julie mugford was incorrect. So what do you believe? since it was you who are basing your questions on the words of a "psychic". As for your questions to Mike, well he's got to make up his mind whether to believe this man, or believe what he stated yesterday that he believes Jeremy to be completely innocent from any blame? In that context, yes your questions are fair.

[Newbury1]

Vidvic - Interesting questions in your original post & I look forward to Mikes replies (I didn't notice Mike's comments before as they were on the Maddie thread)

If any of this JB getting SC to do it theory holds any water, how culpable (legally) would JB be under this scenario - after all he would not have actually done it?

Setting up this scenario would also be very tricky for JB as

1) Would SC do it (without grassing on JB)?
2) Would SC kill them all (the risk to JB still being in a position of sharing the inheritance)?
3) would SC kill herself?
 
With this theory we are still back to SC overpowering NB and her blood in the moderator (but then the same counter arguments would exist - SC could overpower an injured NB and the relatives set up the moderator  )

[shonapugs]

When did you change your mind, vidvic? I seem to remember that you found the theory of a hit-man quite laughable, just a few days before.

[vidvic]

When did you change your mind, vidvic? I seem to remember that you found the theory of a hit-man quite laughable, just a few days before.

Shona, I've not changed my mind at all. I'm asking Mike these questions from the point of view of this theory. Hope that makes sense, sometimes I'm not too good at explaining myself.

[vidvic]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

The fact that JM said that JB told her a hitman did it has always made her testimony MORE believable in my eyes, rather than her just simply blaming JB.

Would you not agree that my questions to Mike are fair?

But you didn't answer my question vidvic. This man said Jeremy put the murder into Sheila's mind. If he did that then Julie mugford was incorrect. So what do you believe? since it was you who are basing your questions on the words of a "psychic". As for your questions to Mike, well he's got to make up his mind whether to believe this man, or believe what he stated yesterday that he believes Jeremy to be completely innocent from any blame? In that context, yes your questions are fair.

Grahame, I have always believed JM. I still believe that JB was totally responsible. I do not believe what Mike is putting forward as a theory, but he obviously does and that's a massive shift from where he was over the last few years. Basically he's saying JB did it by priming Sheila.

[vidvic]

Vidvic - Interesting questions in your original post & I look forward to Mikes replies (I didn't notice Mike's comments before as they were on the Maddie thread)

If any of this JB getting SC to do it theory holds any water, how culpable (legally) would JB be under this scenario - after all he would not have actually done it?

Setting up this scenario would also be very tricky for JB as

1) Would SC do it (without grassing on JB)?
2) Would SC kill them all (the risk to JB still being in a position of sharing the inheritance)?
3) would SC kill herself?
 
With this theory we are still back to SC overpowering NB and her blood in the moderator (but then the same counter arguments would exist - SC could overpower an injured NB and the relatives set up the moderator  )

Don't get me wrong Newbury I completely understand and agree. I think it's utter BS.

[vidvic]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

The fact that JM said that JB told her a hitman did it has always made her testimony MORE believable in my eyes, rather than her just simply blaming JB.

Would you not agree that my questions to Mike are fair?

But you didn't answer my question vidvic. This man said Jeremy put the murder into Sheila's mind. If he did that then Julie mugford was incorrect. So what do you believe? since it was you who are basing your questions on the words of a "psychic". As for your questions to Mike, well he's got to make up his mind whether to believe this man, or believe what he stated yesterday that he believes Jeremy to be completely innocent from any blame? In that context, yes your questions are fair.

Dear Grahame,

What mike actually said is.....

Please do not worry over me, I will be here until as long as I can be, forever supporting Jeremy because I know whole heartedly that he did not and could not have been responsible for killing any m,embers of his family inside whf, including for the fact that he did not kill his sister, nor did he stage manage her body to make it appear as though, or look like she had taken her own life...

This is a clever play on words. He's just saying that Jeremy wasn't there at the farm, did not kill his sister, etc etc. He is not saying that he didn't prime her to do it for him.....

[grahameb]

Yes it is very dangerous when you get this kind of person with claims of special powers involved and this proves so called interpretation proves it. vidvic you ask whether this makes Julie Mugford's testimony "completely" believable? Well remember she said Jeremy had told her he had hired a hit man. Now you either believe her, or this dreamer?

The fact that JM said that JB told her a hitman did it has always made her testimony MORE believable in my eyes, rather than her just simply blaming JB.

Would you not agree that my questions to Mike are fair?

But you didn't answer my question vidvic. This man said Jeremy put the murder into Sheila's mind. If he did that then Julie mugford was incorrect. So what do you believe? since it was you who are basing your questions on the words of a "psychic". As for your questions to Mike, well he's got to make up his mind whether to believe this man, or believe what he stated yesterday that he believes Jeremy to be completely innocent from any blame? In that context, yes your questions are fair.

Grahame, I have always believed JM. I still believe that JB was totally responsible. I do not believe what Mike is putting forward as a theory, but he obviously does and that's a massive shift from where he was over the last few years. Basically he's saying JB did it by priming Sheila.

Vic, what do you think Julie Mugford meant by this cryptic statement? "The appellant said to her, “Everything is going well. Something is wrong at the farm. I haven’t had any sleep all night … bye honey and I love you lots”. Miss Mugford did not take him seriously and went back to sleep." Does this mean that she was implying that Jeremy was not at the farm that night? If so and she was implying that a hitman was involved, then if her statement of a hitman was incorrect then surely Jeremy couldn't have been responsible for the murders?