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Offline Caroline

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« Reply #660 on: August 28, 2020, 09:16:PM »
Again, thanks.  However, the allegation falls down anyway when you look at Ann Eaton's statement.  It does appear that Caroline has misinterpreted Ann Eaton and proceeded on that misunderstanding.

The whole thing has taken up a 44-page thread, but could have been resolved in 10 seconds.  Just read the statement.

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« Reply #661 on: August 28, 2020, 09:22:PM »
Again, thanks.  However, the allegation falls down anyway when you look at Ann Eaton's statement.  It does appear that Caroline has misinterpreted Ann Eaton and proceeded on that misunderstanding.

The whole thing has taken up a 44-page thread, but could have been resolved in 10 seconds.  Just read the statement.

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« Reply #662 on: August 28, 2020, 09:46:PM »
Clot!

I'm sorry but insulting people is not an argument, and what I say is true. 

It appears that you have misinterpreted the statement by Ann Eaton and gone off on a tangent, and frankly, made a fool of yourself.

Your defensiveness and insult just further reinforces that impression.  I have not insulted you here.  But do keep on insulting me.  It just shows you for what you are.

Every time you guilters do this, it weakens the case against Jeremy that bit more.

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« Reply #663 on: August 28, 2020, 09:52:PM »
That’s ‘Caro’ for you ‘Jeremy Bamber is 100% guilty’ I’m looking forward to this, she’s lurking
What is she going to do staying off the forums for 24/7 or attempt to challenge you

But what is there to challenge me on, Jackie?  There is nothing in this.  Unless I have misunderstood, the wallet was handed in before Jeremy mentioned it, which is why the figure comes up in Ann Eaton's statement.  The reason Ann Eaton mentions the amount is because she is suspicious that Jeremy would ask after Nevill's wallet at all.  Caroline has misinterpreted this to mean Jeremy knew what was in the wallet, but that's not what Ann was getting at.

Is there anything else to say about it?  I don't believe there is.  I think it's a total non-issue, but if I have misunderstood something here, by all means somebody can correct me.  I'd like Jeremy to be guilty, actually, so that he hasn't spent 35 years in prison for nothing, so please, by all means, somebody come forward and tell me why there's more to this wallet affair than meets the eye.

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« Reply #664 on: August 29, 2020, 07:32:AM »
But what is there to challenge me on, Jackie?  There is nothing in this.  Unless I have misunderstood, the wallet was handed in before Jeremy mentioned it, which is why the figure comes up in Ann Eaton's statement.  The reason Ann Eaton mentions the amount is because she is suspicious that Jeremy would ask after Nevill's wallet at all.  Caroline has misinterpreted this to mean Jeremy knew what was in the wallet, but that's not what Ann was getting at.

Is there anything else to say about it?  I don't believe there is.  I think it's a total non-issue, but if I have misunderstood something here, by all means somebody can correct me.  I'd like Jeremy to be guilty, actually, so that he hasn't spent 35 years in prison for nothing, so please, by all means, somebody come forward and tell me why there's more to this wallet affair than meets the eye.

How did Jeremy know it was missing?
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« Reply #665 on: August 29, 2020, 11:29:AM »
How did Jeremy know it was missing?

I've no idea, Caroline.  I can think of several possible reasons, including that he didn't know, he just guessed as much given that Nevill was found in his pyjamas and a wallet was nowhere to be seen. 

Perhaps you could get to the point?

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« Reply #666 on: August 29, 2020, 12:01:PM »
Hadn't Jeremy reported the wallet missing ? RWB had it all the time.

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« Reply #667 on: August 29, 2020, 12:02:PM »
Was the watch hidden under the rug for another time ?

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« Reply #668 on: August 29, 2020, 12:07:PM »
Was the watch hidden under the rug for another time ?

It sounds like a treasure hunt.

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« Reply #669 on: August 29, 2020, 12:26:PM »
It sounds like a treasure hunt.





It certainly was !

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« Reply #670 on: August 29, 2020, 01:21:PM »




It certainly was !

If this really was a 'Princes in the Tower' situation, it sounds like the people around him we're not much better.  It's little wonder.

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Re: Letter Trail - Wallet
« Reply #671 on: August 29, 2020, 01:23:PM »
I've no idea, Caroline.  I can think of several possible reasons, including that he didn't know, he just guessed as much given that Nevill was found in his pyjamas and a wallet was nowhere to be seen. 

Perhaps you could get to the point?

That IS the point! He knew it was missing because he knew where it should have been! Quite simple really.
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« Reply #672 on: August 29, 2020, 02:01:PM »
That IS the point! He knew it was missing because he knew where it should have been! Quite simple really.

But Caroline, first you don't know that he knew where it normally was.  You're assuming that.  Just because he's looking for the wallet and he notices that it's missing, it doesn't mean he knows exactly where it should be.  He could easily intuit where it should be, just by using common sense: just look in the master bedroom, where Nevill slept, and where he would naturally keep the wallet; if not there, then look in the office.  If he doesn't find it in the expected places, then it's 'missing'.  As I have just explained, his father was found bare foot in his pyjamas, so the wallet must be somewhere in the house.

And even if he did know where the wallet should be, so what?  That could well be because he just knew for innocent reasons.  It's his dad.  They work together.  He knows the house.  He will have recalled where his father kept the wallet in the past.  So?  It can be innocently explained and it doesn't follow he was at the scene when the shootings took place, but in any event, you can't prove he knew in the first place.

Can I add that you haven't shown us the letters, or you've taken them down.  Having looked through some of the thread, I'm not clear why you did that.  Without sight of the letters, it's still unclear to me what you're driving at.  So far, I see nothing suspicious.  It's his father and he's the only surviving next-of-kin. He's looking for his wallet.  That's exactly what I would expect him to do.   It's what anybody would do in the same situation.

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« Reply #673 on: August 29, 2020, 02:35:PM »
Followed this loosely.

My understanding is AE gave Nevill's wallet to Basil Cock. Bamber later went looking for it in the places he thought it would be.

Bamber didn't answer a question from Caroline. Either deliberatly or in error, which resulted in a stance change.

« Last Edit: August 29, 2020, 02:41:PM by Adam »
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« Reply #674 on: August 29, 2020, 02:40:PM »
Did Bamber know how much money was in the wallet? A possibility that he counted it on the massacre night. Or just knew that Nevill had a certain amount at certain times. To pay farm workers etc.

He couldn't take the wallet on the massacre night but did not see a problem in taking it upon his return.
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