Jeremy Bamber and the Pity Play..

[David1819]

If it doesn't include Sheila's face, I certainly wouldn't give it ANY credence.

If the hypostasis does not convince you nothing will. you are a lost cause.

[Caroline]

If the hypostasis does not convince you nothing will. you are a lost cause.

No it doesn't - there is discolouration on Sheila and the pitcure of June isn't clear and has a high red hue.

[lookout]

While you're on about " high red hues ",were June's toenails painted ?

[David1819]

No it doesn't - there is discolouration on Sheila and the pitcure of June isn't clear and has a high red hue.

You have never seen a clear accurate picture of Sheila's face. Mikes copies are so misleading in that respect. The skin is white/grey and the carpet is dark green/grey its like the photo was taken at night.

As for June she has to have PML otherwise that means she was also alive while Jeremy was outside.

[Caroline]

You have never seen a clear accurate picture of Sheila's face. Mikes copies are so misleading in that respect. The skin is white/grey and the carpet is dark green/grey its like the photo was taken at night.

As for June she has to have PML otherwise that means she was also alive while Jeremy was outside.

Dead skin is white/grey and the blood is dried and cracked, it shows she had been dead for some time. Her skin is mottled on her face and also her legs. I didn't say that June didn't have livor mortis, I am saying that Sheila did also. Plus the times you have given are 'in general' and not set i stone.

There is no getting away from the dried cracked blood and the fact that Craig noted it. Sheila had been dead for some time.

[lebaleb]

Dead skin is white/grey and the blood is dried and cracked, it shows she had been dead for some time. Her skin is mottled on her face and also her legs. I didn't say that June didn't have livor mortis, I am saying that Sheila did also. Plus the times you have given are 'in general' and not set i stone.

There is no getting away from the dried cracked blood and the fact that Craig noted it. Sheila had been dead for some time.

Photos were taken many hours after police arrived at the scene with Jeremy. Blood will dry quickly and crack. It's the body's way of closing a wound.

[Stephanie]

Photos were taken many hours after police arrived at the scene with Jeremy. Blood will dry quickly and crack. It's the body's way of closing a wound.

What about the dead skin and mottling on her face and legs? How do you explain that?

[lookout]

The pallor that is evident is the first stage of death,therefore death had only occurred within two hours or even less,any " colour " visible would have been accelerated by her activity such as hurtling around the farmhouse shooting everyone. The more active a person before death,the quicker the onset of LM.

[Caroline]

What about the dead skin and mottling on her face and legs? How do you explain that?

Denial Steph, denial 

[Stephanie]

Jeremy Bamber says in 2012:

"Imprisonment is nothing, but to live defeated and innocent is to die daily."

What a crock!

Here's what SH said..

"I died a little each day" https://therealmrshspoofblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/21/simon-hall-letters/

No he didn't! He went from strength to strength. I witnessed it with my own eyes.

These statements are nothing more than pity plays.

Paddy Hill is a genuine victim. Look at his anger. Where is Jeremy's? I never saw SH's either. I was angry for him. He played the victim. His pity ploys kept my attention focused on him and in the process wore me down. The sole aim of a pathological individual = feed their supply.

[Caroline]

Photos were taken many hours after police arrived at the scene with Jeremy. Blood will dry quickly and crack. It's the body's way of closing a wound.

Craig described the blood as dried and cracked with proves she hadn't JUST died.

[lookout]

A warm atmosphere results in everything drying quicker-------especially blood which naturally cracks at its thinnest point on the skin.

[Stephanie]

Denial Steph, denial 

Is it denial, or a lack of understanding and knowledge? I'm unsure. I questioned this when SH confessed.

Many people are lead by their own emotions and personal experiences and indeed agenda's. It's all there in the Simon Hall confession thread.

There weren't many posters who accepted the confession for what it was.

[Caroline]

Lookout you made similar excuses when SH confessed. You appear to be one of those people who wont back down to reason, even when the truth is staring you in the face.

The picture shows that she has been dead for quite some time, people can deny it all they like but there is no way Sheila died shortly before the house was stormed. She had been dead for some time.

[Stephanie]

The picture shows that she has been dead for quite some time, people can deny it all they like but there is no way Sheila died shortly before the house was stormed. She had been dead for some time.

Did you see Bambers letter to Trudie dated 10th October? What do you make of it?http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7940.msg378616.html#msg378616