Proof Julie got information from Ann and not Jeremy

[Jan]

Bringing up the bible is not a great move. As there are so many suspiscious questions that need to be answered -


Did Sheila read the bible ? A source please.

Did Sheila  get her extreme religious views from the bible. If so, which part ?

If not did Sheila have her own religious books which gave her extreme religious views ?

If Sheila didn't read anything religious, or bring anything to WHF,  how did she get her extreme religious views.

Did Sheila bring her own religious books to WHF. If not, why not ?

If Sheila had her own religious books, why didn't she use one of these prior to committing suicide ?

If Sheila didn't bring her own religious books to WHF and did not read any, why was the bible next to her ?

Is it common for religious people who have committed suicide, to read the bible beforehand ?

Was Sheila calm and controlled enough to decide to get the bible before committing suicide ?

Was the light in the main bedroom on ?

Did Sheila know where the bible was ?

Would Sheila read her mothers bible, who she had just killed ?

If the bible was a part of Sheila's religious readings, why didn't she have her own bible ?

What page was the bible left open at . Did it relate to pre suicide reading ?

Why was blood on the bible if Sheila read it before shooting herself ?

If Sheila didn't read the bible after collecting it, before committing suicide, why did she bother going to get it ?

How did the bible end up on top of Sheila's blood on the carpet (TAC) ?

Would Sheila only decide to get the bible after killing four other people ?

When did Sheila write the alleged suicide note inside the bible ?

There are now claims of a suicide note in Sheila's bedroom. Are the CT going to withdraw claims a suicide note was in the bible ?

Did Bamber know about June's bible ?

Would Bamber putting the bible next to Sheila support a religious murder/suicide theory ?

Would Bamber be in control enough to put the bible next to Sheila ?

Does the bible support suicide ?

Does the bible support murder ?

Does the bible support ritualistic cleansing ? 

Could Sheila read the bible in the dark ?

Why did Sheila shoot herself once upstairs. Read the bible and then go downstairs ? As claimed by the OS.

Adam these have all been answered before . Well the sensible questions have anyway.

[lebaleb]

Because Julie clearly said it was Jeremy that told her not Anne. That was part of the prosecution case that he gave information on the crime scene that know one else would know .

But that was not true because the family were getting information that they could have passed on to Julie.

It's pretty obvious if you think about it because the police said they had got mixed up about the position of the bible and gun , so allegedly they fed the wrong information , so it's pretty obvious it never came from Jeremy.

The confusion came when police told AE that June was on one side of the bed and Sheila on the other. She took that to mean they were both ON the bed.

[lookout]

The confusion came when police told AE that June was on one side of the bed and Sheila on the other. She took that to mean they were both ON the bed.

Exactly,and JM had been prompted all through that trial,until she came to answer the questions by the defence judge,and that's when she put on her act ! She'd have been well and truly stumped then if she hadn't have blubbered her way through.

[Harry]

The confusion came when police told AE that June was on one side of the bed and Sheila on the other. She took that to mean they were both ON the bed.

Here is what Ann Eaton says in her statement made to the City of London Police.

 “It was the policeman DC Mick Clark I think, who told me Sheila and Aunt June were on the bed with a gun between them and a bible on Sheila’s Chest.”

[David1819]

Here is what Ann Eaton says in her statement made to the City of London Police.

 “It was the policeman DC Mick Clark I think, who told me Sheila and Aunt June were on the bed with a gun between them and a bible on Sheila’s Chest.”

That's more or less proven perjury then. "I cannot remember who told me" "It could have been Julie" was in her sworn testimony.

[Harry]

That's more or less proven perjury then. "I cannot remember who told me" "It could have been Julie" was in her sworn testimony.

What do you make of the attempt to deny the police really said that to Ann Eaton and to favour the view that she misheard what the policeman said? The description is just too detailed to be a product of mishearing. The copper said it alright and the relatives believed it for a whole week before the police corrected the mistake, if that's what it was.

Here's what Ann Eaton says in her statement of September 16th.

Having read through my two statements, I can also recall that during the visit by police officers and myself on the evening of Wednesday 14th August 1985 to Whitehouse House Farm at Tolleshunt D'Arcy, I was told that Sheila had been found dead on the bedroom floor on Nevill BAMBER's side of the bed and this was the first time that I knew about this fact having previously been led to believe that Sheila had been on the bed itself with a bible on her chest. I did question the police about the position of the bible but the police declined to answer any questions.

[Adam]

If AE said she thought a policeman told her Sheila was on the bed. So what ?

A bible was by Sheila. Bob Miller saying it was put there for the polices benefit. 

[lookout]

Was that the same statement in which AE forgot to mention the silencer ?

[Caroline]

What do you make of the attempt to deny the police really said that to Ann Eaton and to favour the view that she misheard what the policeman said? The description is just too detailed to be a product of mishearing. The copper said it alright and the relatives believed it for a whole week before the police corrected the mistake, if that's what it was.

Here's what Ann Eaton says in her statement of September 16th.

I don't understand why people are confused about this point. If you were to describe the position of an object located either side of a bed but not actually ON the bed, would you just say it was on the left or right of the bed. You wouldn't mention the floor, so clearly, the Police officer who told Ann that Sheila was on the left side of the bed assumed that she was physically on the bed (if repeating what he had been told by another offcer and hadn't seen the scene for himself), or Ann assumed that is what the police officer meant.

[lookout]

Chinese Whispers end up like that. Then it's interpreted to suit.

[Caroline]

Chinese Whispers end up like that. Then it's interpreted to suit.

Exactly. There is no big conspiracy, just misinterpretation - taking what was said 'literally'.

[notsure]

I think you would say they were on the floor or on the bed! If I found someone dead to the right or left  of a bed , I would say she was dead on floor in the bedroom.

[Caroline]

I think you would say they were on the floor or on the bed! If I found someone dead to the right or left  of a bed , I would say she was dead on floor in the bedroom.

I would say June was on the right and Sheila was on the left of the bed - regardless of adding 'floor' both versions would be correct.

[notsure]

I would say June was on the right and Sheila was on the left of the bed - regardless of adding 'floor' both versions would be correct.

saying 'the bed' insinuates On the bed imo

[David1819]

Exactly. There is no big conspiracy, just misinterpretation - taking what was said 'literally'.

The exact same misinterpretation became part of Jeremy's alleged confession. Exposing Mugsie's words as nothing but a cheap hoax.