Aftermath, Where is the forensic evidence that Jeremy Bamber killed his family?

[Steve_uk]

Why indeed and where did it originate?

I thought it might be something to do with the rumour that it showed her private parts. I'm having difficulty noticing the development of lividity I must say. No wonder Dr. Craig didn't give a time of death.

[Jane]

In CC's statement he says that Dr Furgusen told him Sheila would always have the illness at more frequent intervals. On the drive to WHF she didn't say a word. June told PB that she was worried about Sheila's behavior, taking no interest in the twins. She wasn't acting normally, she just answered yes or no and then left the phone without saying goodnight. She just sat vacantly at the kitchen table. In my experience I would say there was a high likelihood that Sheila would have a psychotic episode, all the warning signs were there. You can't say there is nothing to back it up.

And I would say she was in the depths of depression. There IS evidence to back that up.

[lookout]

There wouldn't have been any visible lividity under 2 hours. Which is why the doctor didn't give a time of death,but all the more reason why he should have. I can't understand that at all,because that in itself would have immediately excluded Jeremy from the murders.

[Steve_uk]

It was quite normal behaviour for Sheila. Therein lay the tragedy.

[sami]

There wouldn't have been any visible lividity under 2 hours. Which is why the doctor didn't give a time of death,but all the more reason why he should have. I can't understand that at all,because that in itself would have immediately excluded Jeremy from the murders.

well from the above statement ,it seems youve done his job just by looking at a photo you have told us there wouldnt have been visable lividity under 2 hours.but did the doctor comfirm what your saying after all he was at the scene and not studying a photo.

[lookout]

well from the above statement ,it seems youve done his job just by looking at a photo you have told us there wouldnt have been visable lividity under 2 hours.but did the doctor comfirm what your saying after all he was at the scene and not studying a photo.

The doctor neither did anything nor said anything about times of death,which even in a police doctors language could have just said that they'd been dead a long time,but obviously the indicatons of that weren't there.

[sami]

The doctor neither did anything nor said anything about times of death,which even in a police doctors language could have just said that they'd been dead a long time,but obviously the indicatons of that weren't there.

oh i see.i do agree thats not good enough in a case with 5 dead bodies .the doctor should have given an estimate of the time of death

[David1819]

She was n a state of lividity, that's why her face is discoloured and mottled.

Lividity will only effect the face if one is face down.


She looks rather pale here two. Very much alive also 

[Jane]

Lividity will only effect the face if one is face down.


She looks rather pale here two. Very much alive also 

Going by her eyes, VERY made up, too.

[notsure]

In CC's statement he says that Dr Furgusen told him Sheila would always have the illness at more frequent intervals. On the drive to WHF she didn't say a word. June told PB that she was worried about Sheila's behavior, taking no interest in the twins. She wasn't acting normally, she just answered yes or no and then left the phone without saying goodnight. She just sat vacantly at the kitchen table. In my experience I would say there was a high likelihood that Sheila would have a psychotic episode, all the warning signs were there. You can't say there is nothing to back it up.

i agree with that lebaleb, i think there is a lot to back up why shiela would have or could have had a psychotic episode. 

[Steve_uk]

She reminds me of Georgina in London Weekend Television's Upstairs Downstairs.

[lookout]

Dates put on Sheila's photo's would have helped in comparing then and now plus it would show various stages of her illness and the changes which occur, because I don't know if it's the makeup but in some pics she looks so different. No two pics are alike. 

[sami]

i agree with that lebaleb, i think there is a lot to back up why shiela would have or could have had a psychotic episode.

if she ever used violence against somebody i would agree.but she has no record of that

[lookout]

Neither do a lot of depressives--------on the outside. Violence usually happens behind closed doors.

[sami]

Neither do a lot of depressives--------on the outside. Violence usually happens behind closed doors.

would she not tell her doctor if she was having urges to kill. i very much think so