Who sowed the seeds

[lookout]

 You've been reading all the wrong links etc !

[Caroline]

Bambertweets.

Ha. ha!! As I thought, it says they had seen her HOLD a gun, no one mentions that she knew how to handle a gun or that she had ever fired one.

[Caroline]

You've been reading all the wrong links etc !

I've read all that BS before - it says HOLDING but in your haste to have Sheila be the killer, you have misunderstood - holding doesn't not mean she was proficient with firearms!

[lookout]

Ha. ha!! As I thought, it says they had seen her HOLD a gun, no one mentions that she knew how to handle a gun or that she had ever fired one.

Holding a gun is the first step to firing one. You must have had Sheila down as a right idiot. She was brought up amongst the things,used to join in on shoots ( by even attending them in the first place ) .
Anyway,wasn't it DB who'd " recalled " that Sheila had,indeed,fired a shotgun on one of the trips to Scotland ? Tut tut,what a short memory.

[Caroline]

Holding a gun is the first step to firing one. You must have had Sheila down as a right idiot. She was brought up amongst the things,used to join in on shoots ( by even attending them in the first place ) .
Anyway,wasn't it DB who'd " recalled " that Sheila had,indeed,fired a shotgun on one of the trips to Scotland ? Tut tut,what a short memory.

I don't have Sheila down as an idiot at all - you're the one who talks abut Jeremy as though he were just out of short pants! Being present at ONE shoot doesn't make her Annie Oakley no matter how you would desperately like to portray the image. Lookout, courts aren't stupid, they can see through all of the this stuff and if DB had his statement altered without his knowledge, don't you think he's have said something? The very people you are talking about, helped to convict Jeremy because they believe he is guilty - you won't be getting any help from them!

[lookout]

Who needs help ? What a strange thing to say.
Anyway,back to the recollection of DB being witness to Sheila using/firing a shotgun.Any advance on this,or don't you believe DB ?

[Jane]

Who needs help ? What a strange thing to say.
Anyway,back to the recollection of DB being witness to Sheila using/firing a shotgun.Any advance on this,or don't you believe DB ?

Did he actually specify using/firing as opposed to holding? It must have been quite hard to recall what one person -amongst many others- did at a shoot several years earlier.

[lookout]

Did he actually specify using/firing as opposed to holding? It must have been quite hard to recall what one person -amongst many others- did at a shoot several years earlier.

He'd told CAL anyway ? " More recently " it would have seemed, but " hadn't remembered at the trial ?".
Funny how he forgot a lot of things at trial------------that mattered !!

[lookout]

 The book also stated that both Colin and Sheila used to fool about with the guns,so yes,I'd have said that Sheila was no stranger when it came to using them------------in temper !

[Jane]

The book also stated that both Colin and Sheila used to fool about with the guns,so yes,I'd have said that Sheila was no stranger when it came to using them------------in temper !

So just because a "soundbite" you've picked out of a book, sans background, says "Colin and Sheila used to fool about with the guns", you regard it as evidence that Sheila was an ace shot?

[lookout]

So just because a "soundbite" you've picked out of a book, sans background, says "Colin and Sheila used to fool about with the guns", you regard it as evidence that Sheila was an ace shot?

And just because you've conveniently omitted the small fact of DB's sudden memory spurt---------I don't count the tom-foolery of Sheila and Colin as important.

[Jane]

And just because you've conveniently omitted the small fact of DB's sudden memory spurt---------I don't count the tom-foolery of Sheila and Colin as important.

It sounds as if Julie Mugford might be the only one to stick to her story then.

[guest154]

I think the motive, or influence, Buddy - was financial.

[Caroline]

Who needs help ? What a strange thing to say.
Anyway,back to the recollection of DB being witness to Sheila using/firing a shotgun.Any advance on this,or don't you believe DB ?

Your argument needs help! The WS refers to holding a gun - you're once again distorting what was actually said in favour of what you want it to say!

[Jane]

And just because you've conveniently omitted the small fact of DB's sudden memory spurt---------I don't count the tom-foolery of Sheila and Colin as important.

If you don't count it as being important, why bother to mention it?