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[Jan]

Quite right Matt, this is why I cannot believe Mikes theory that Jeremy had no idea his family had been killed?  With all the commotion outside and the dog barking and sounding distressed, his Dad had not appeared to see what the hell was going on?  Did he think Dad and mum was having a lie in?

According to Bewes he was worried - he asked the police to go in as soon as they got there . And later on did he not beg them to go in saying they are all the family I Have?

So he obviously was getting increasingly worried about what had happened.

[guest7363]

According to Bewes he was worried - he asked the police to go in as soon as they got there . And later on did he not beg them to go in saying they are all the family I Have?

So he obviously was getting increasingly worried about what had happened.

I did say Mikes theory,  this is Mikes post

Hang on a minute, he told PS 'Oliver' Saxby, at the scene, upon the news that all his family had been shot dead inside the farmhouse, that 'he thought the police had shot all the victims 'dead' after they entered the farmhouse', which is consistent with my belief...

[David1819]

I did say Mikes theory,  this is Mikes post

Hang on a minute, he told PS 'Oliver' Saxby, at the scene, upon the news that all his family had been shot dead inside the farmhouse, that 'he thought the police had shot all the victims 'dead' after they entered the farmhouse', which is consistent with my belief...

If my memory serves me right. Jeremy did shorty after being told they were all dead while sitting in the police car he accused the police of killing them all, then whoever Jeremy told that to asked why he thought that and Jeremy's reply to that was "you said everything would be OK"

I believe I read this in colp interview notes while they were going over notebooks.

[Caroline]

According to Bewes he was worried - he asked the police to go in as soon as they got there . And later on did he not beg them to go in saying they are all the family I Have?

So he obviously was getting increasingly worried about what had happened.

He had told police officers his sister was armed. He was a 25 year old man who was familiar with guns - I don't believe for one second that he didn't know the police would not have stormed the house unarmed until they knew t was safe to do so.

[Jan]

He had told police officers his sister was armed. He was a 25 year old man who was familiar with guns - I don't believe for one second that he didn't know the police would not have stormed the house unarmed until they knew t was safe to do so.

He never really said what was going through his head at the time though did he ? If he was innocent perhaps he just thought she was threatening herself not anyone else.

I am only saying what Bewes said . And as far as I know they did not call armed back up for a while?
So they were obviously not feeling too threatened?

[Caroline]

He never really said what was going through his head at the time though did he ? If he was innocent perhaps he just thought she was threatening herself not anyone else.

I am only saying what Bewes said . And as far as I know they did not call armed back up for a while?
So they were obviously not feeling too threatened?

He couldn't say what was going through his head. However, the procedures to follow when a suspect is armed whether the unarmed police feel threatened or not,

[lookout]

I bet he was scared of getting shot himself.

[Jan]

He couldn't say what was going through his head. However, the procedures to follow when a suspect is armed whether the unarmed police feel threatened or not,

At what stage was armed back up called? - you would have thought those first police officers COULD in theory have been in a lot of danger.

I remember a shooting case near me where the police would not help the victim or even let the ambulance attend - I think the poor woman died in her neighbours arms even thought the neighbour kept telling the police the assailant had left the scene.

[Caroline]

At what stage was armed back up called? - you would have thought those first police officers COULD in theory have been in a lot of danger.

I remember a shooting case near me where the police would not help the victim or even let the ambulance attend - I think the poor woman died in her neighbours arms even thought the neighbour kept telling the police the assailant had left the scene.

I imagine after they saw no sign of life, they is no way they would have risked trying to enter.

[guest154]

I imagine after they saw no sign of life, they is no way they would have risked trying to enter.

Of course he knew they weren't going to storm in. I am sure he told them to "please go inside, they are the only family I have" etc likely came after they made it clear they were going to call backup as they were unarmed so unable to go in.

[Caroline]

Of course he knew they weren't going to storm in. I am sure he told them to "please go inside, they are the only family I have" etc likely came after they made it clear they were going to call backup as they were unarmed so unable to go in.

Spot on!

[Jan]

I imagine after they saw no sign of life, they is no way they would have risked trying to enter.

Well they were allegedly still shouting out the Sheila when they went in so they cant have been that convinced everyone was dead.

Mind you after trying to talk to someone for hours on a loud hailer you think they might have had a clue.

[Caroline]

Well they were allegedly still shouting out the Sheila when they went in so they cant have been that convinced everyone was dead.

Mind you after trying to talk to someone for hours on a loud hailer you think they might have had a clue.

Precisely, which is why they didn't just steam on in.

[lookout]

It certainly took the raid team long enough in establishing that all occupants were dead ! What DID keep them ?

[Alias]

Spot on!

  He knew he had shot Sheila twice - does anyone ever think about that? How impossible all your theories are?