Why Jeremy Took Nevill's call so SERIOUSLY??

[Jane]

Yes it makes no sense, are they expecting to find a document, hand written by conspirators documenting the plan for the frame job, a document that was then put in the case file!  Wanting things released because they may contain information relevant to innocence doesn't make much sense to e.

Would that be the hand written document stating "It wuz us wot dun it"?

[guest154]

Would that be the hand written document stating "It wuz us wot dun it"?

Yes, I believe that's the one.

[Caroline]

Would that be the hand written document stating "It wuz us wot dun it"?

yes, it's in a envelope marked 'Shhhhh'

[Jan]

Well, that's what Jeremy is doing to fit in a call from Nevill!

really!!!

If he is innocent he does not know whether his father called or not. Fact!!!!

So he might be using sloppy police logs to say he did. If he is innocent its worth a TRY!!!!!!

[Caroline]

really!!!

If he is innocent he does not know whether his father called or not. Fact!!!!

So he might be using sloppy police logs to say he did. If he is innocent its worth a TRY!!!!!!

Yes really!!!
He adamantly refuted that he called the police as late as 03:36 at the trial - now he's saying it WAS 03:36 - FACT!!!

Oh he's certainly USING the logs (sloppy or not) to pull the wool.

[guest154]

really!!!

If he is innocent he does not know whether his father called or not. Fact!!!!

So he might be using sloppy police logs to say he did. If he is innocent its worth a TRY!!!!!!

So Jeremy expects us to believe that his Father called the police before he did, yet no one bothered to mention this to him when he called that night. When the police were still investigating this as a murder/suicide all they had to say to the relatives, who had doubts, was that Neville had called that night - so Bamber had an alibi. Bamber expects us to believe this?  Does he think we're idiots?

[Caroline]

So Jeremy expects us to believe that his Father called the police before he did, yet no one bothered to mention this to him when he called that night. When the police were still investigating this as a murder/suicide all they had to say to the relatives, who had doubts, was that Neville had called that night - so Bamber had an alibi. Bamber expects us to believe this?  Does he think we're idiots?

'Some' people might/do believe it but the CCRC won't.

[guest154]

'Some' people might/do believe it but the CCRC won't.

It would be embarrassing to even present it to them, I don't think Bamber will.

[Caroline]

It would be embarrassing to even present it to them, I don't think Bamber will.

Thing is, if he can get a court to believe the phone call happened - he's out. However ........... with what he has now, there is no chance.

[Jan]

So Jeremy expects us to believe that his Father called the police before he did, yet no one bothered to mention this to him when he called that night. When the police were still investigating this as a murder/suicide all they had to say to the relatives, who had doubts, was that Neville had called that night - so Bamber had an alibi. Bamber expects us to believe this?  Does he think we're idiots?

I never said I thought the call existed . what I was saying is that after 30 years of trying to prove your innocence one may become desperate.

[guest154]

I never said I thought the call existed . what I was saying is that after 30 years of trying to prove your innocence one may become desperate.

No, you didn't say that it exists - but that is what Bamber is asking people to buy into.

do you think his Father called the police that night?

[Caroline]

I never said I thought the call existed . what I was saying is that after 30 years of trying to prove your innocence one may become desperate.

he would be well advised not to use up a submission with desperate claims because it will be a waste and he can't afford to do it.

[David1819]

So Jeremy expects us to believe that his Father called the police before he did, yet no one bothered to mention this to him when he called that night. When the police were still investigating this as a murder/suicide all they had to say to the relatives, who had doubts, was that Neville had called that night - so Bamber had an alibi. Bamber expects us to believe this?  Does he think we're idiots?

Considering they used a strowger exchange line. The only possible scenario of Neville calling the police would be that he rang the local police and they identified Neville as Mr Bamber and later Jeremy Bamber rang, So you have Mr Bamber and Jeremy Bamber calling but go down on the assumption they were the same call same person. For this to happen would require the police telephone operator to be someone like trigger from fools and horses or something. 

[guest154]

Considering they used a strowger exchange line. The only possible scenario of Neville calling the police would be that he rang the local police and they identified Neville as Mr Bamber and later Jeremy Bamber rang, So you have Mr Bamber and Jeremy Bamber calling but go down on the assumption they were the same call same person. For this to happen would require the police telephone operator to be someone like trigger from fools and horses or something.

I'm sure even he would get it. 

[scipio_usmc]

really!!!

If he is innocent he does not know whether his father called or not. Fact!!!!

So he might be using sloppy police logs to say he did. If he is innocent its worth a TRY!!!!!!

There is not a chance he is innocent but even if her were innocent he would know his father didn't call the police before he did because police would have handled things very differently including telling him about such call and that help was already ont he way instead of asking him things they already would have obtained from Nevill.

Anyone who suggests they would have asked Nevill's address, phone number, age, the age of Sheila etc from Jeremy after speaking to Nevill already are full of crap.