Neville's call to Jeremy. A 1% likelihood ?

[Jan]

If Sheila resisted, he would use his vastly superior strenght to overpower her. Simple.

   so if that had happened how would explain the bruises and evidence of holding her down and how could he do that and fire the gun?

[Adam]

There was no forensic evidence linking Jeremy to the crime anyway.Jones prayed for a miracle in order to get a conviction,so the " silencer " was used--------------made-up or what ?

 

You know there is a mountain of forensic evidence.

The last time I posted it to you, you said 'it was the wrong kind of forensic' evidence. Whatever that means.

[Adam]

   so if that had happened how would explain the bruises and evidence of holding her down and how could he do that and fire the gun?

Firstly she may not have resisted. Thread already created.

If she did resist, I don't see why there should be bruises. It wouldn't take much effort for Bamber to overpower her. Or maybe it did take some effort. Resulting in Bamber's first shot not being fatal. The second shot certainly was.

[Jan]

I have reported you to the moderators again. Accusing me of not 'comprehending relationships in a family'. Jan you must calm down. Bamber is guilty. Accept it.

Sheila sleeping with Neville and June that night is a new suggestion. Similar to Bamber having a daughter.

Whether she slept on her own or not is not of much interest to me. Although if she did, it explains how she got into the main bedroom.

It would be a surprise that Sheila stayed in the main bedroom if Bamber had shot June & Neville ten times, then gone downstairs. Thought she would go to her sons room.

report away.

I have not changed my opinion of your understanding of family life .

[Caroline]

That is your take - you have no idea. It makes sense to you to stage a two shot murder as suicide?

And yet that didn't arouse that much suspicion at the time. Jeremy had no choice but to go ahead with the plan. The phone call put him elsewhere and he thought he was clever enough to pull it off.

[Jan]

And yet that didn't arouse that much suspicion at the time. Jeremy had no choice but to go ahead with the plan. The phone call put him elsewhere and he thought he was clever enough to pull it off.

I think the point is that a layman would not have known that two shot suicides do occur.

[Caroline]

But who said he spent a year planning the crime? Julie did not - she said he hired a hit man - so no planning there ? And after the trial she said he NEVER admitted being the murderer? Bit of a clever get out clause there don't you think?

discuss Adam.

Julie did say he had been talking about it for a year pre-murders. He told her it was a hit man post-murders.

[Jane]

I will. I would be careful if I were you. The moderators can't keep defending you and Lookout.

Yes, maybe I have no understanding of family life. After all I did think it strange that a 27 year old woman would sleep in a bed with her mother and father. Then shoot them 15 times.

And WHO of us had the thought that she was sleeping in bed with her mother and father? I can't think of ANY of US who would have suggested such a thing.

[Caroline]

I will. I would be careful if I were you. The moderators can't keep xxxxxxxxx and xxxxxxx.

Yes, maybe I have no understanding of family life. After all I did think it strange that a 27 year old woman would xxxxx xx x xxx xxxx xxx xxxxxx xxx xxxxxx. Then xxxxx xxxx xxxxxxx xxxxx.

I think they (moderators) can defend who they like but with your posting style, it will NEVER be you. You do yourself no favours.

Who said Sheila was sleeping in the bed with her mother AND FATHER? 

If you're a little confused Adam - there is a thread already created!   

[Adam]

I think they (moderators) can defend who they like but with your posting style, it will NEVER be you. You do yourself no favours.

Who said Sheila was sleeping in the bed with her mother AND FATHER? 

It's been discussed a lot the last few days.

Keep up.

[Caroline]

It's been discussed a lot the last few days.

Keep up.

No, Adam, you're a little confused - no one suggested that she slept in the bed with her mother AND FATHER. You need to keep up!!

[Jane]

It's been discussed a lot the last few days.

Keep up.

I don't know about that, Adam but I do know that you've put forward the suggestion that Sheila was sleeping with her mother AND FATHER. NONE of us has.

[Caroline]

I don't know about that, Adam but I do know that you've put forward the suggestion that Sheila was sleeping with her mother AND FATHER. NONE of us has.

I wouldn't care BUT - thread has been created!!

[Jane]

I wouldn't care BUT - thread has been created!!

Do you think someone should tell Adam? 

[Adam]

that shows he does not read other peoples posts - we have mentioned for ages how weird it was that a huge teddy would be in the middle of the marital bed. It does not seem like Nevilles style 

I have xxxx xxxx xxx xxx xxxxxxxxxx again. Saying I don't read other peoples posts.

Please provide the source where there was discussion on the teddy bear. Even if there was, I can't read every post.

And please provide the source where I said I don't like other posters creating threads. Second request.