The 3am telephone call. What was said ?

[lookout]

But no one has come forward to say that she had murder in mind, whereas in Jeremy's case............

Those who commit suicide rarely tell anyone either.

[lookout]

The last time I saw Eddie Gilfoyle's wife,she was 8 and a half months pregnant,looking beautiful in a yellow dress,bright,healthy and happy. A week later she was dead.

[lookout]

When Jeremy had left the farmhouse for home that night,he'd said that everyone appeared happy and that there was no sign of distress. He was being honest,as he could easily have digressed from that situation if he'd wanted to.

[Jane]

When Jeremy had left the farmhouse for home that night,he'd said that everyone appeared happy and that there was no sign of distress. He was being honest,as he could easily have digressed from that situation if he'd wanted to.

I doubt that anyone in that farm house was jumping for joy after the conversation Jeremy said had taken place.

[lookout]

I doubt that anyone in that farm house was jumping for joy after the conversation Jeremy said had taken place.

It just goes to show that there have been a few " alterations " along the way,but not may I add done by Jeremy.

[Jane]

It just goes to show that there have been a few " alterations " along the way,but not may I add done by Jeremy.

That's despite the number of times he's changed what he said and when and to whom. So why isn't it possible that he's changed what others have said?

[lookout]

 So what if there'd also been mention of foster care as well,there certainly didn't appear to have been a big deal over it while Jeremy was there. Everything kicked off after he'd left.He wasn't to know what would happen after having left a happy and comfortable setting. There could have been something else said for all any of us know which ruffled everyone's feathers. 

[Jane]

So what if there'd also been mention of foster care as well,there certainly didn't appear to have been a big deal over it while Jeremy was there. Everything kicked off after he'd left.He wasn't to know what would happen after having left a happy and comfortable setting. There could have been something else said for all any of us know which ruffled everyone's feathers.

Lookout, it's no good trying to make things other than they were. June was worried about Sheila's lack of interest in the house/lack of interest in her children. At best, there may have been some false brightness but I can't believe Sheila took kindly to the suggestion of being sent to a nice Christian community in Bournemouth whilst her children were fostered out.

[lookout]

Lookout, it's no good trying to make things other than they were. June was worried about Sheila's lack of interest in the house/lack of interest in her children. At best, there may have been some false brightness but I can't believe Sheila took kindly to the suggestion of being sent to a nice Christian community in Bournemouth whilst her children were fostered out.

So then you can't blame her for " flipping " after being told for the umpteenth time what to do with her life.

[Jane]

So then you can't blame her for " flipping " after being told for the umpteenth time what to do with her life.

As I've previously said, I think she was too depressed to summon up the energy to kill.

[vidvic]

When Jeremy had left the farmhouse for home that night,he'd said that everyone appeared happy and that there was no sign of distress. He was being honest,as he could easily have digressed from that situation if he'd wanted to.

He said they had suggested fostering the boys! Are you for real?

[lookout]

As I've previously said, I think she was too depressed to summon up the energy to kill.

Entirely up to you to think that way. I'm not stopping you.

[vidvic]

It just goes to show that there have been a few " alterations " along the way,but not may I add done by Jeremy.

Jeremy is a shining beacon of truth and enlightenment Lookout....and you are an ever willing apprentice....you seem to know what he was thinking, what he really meant, his personal conversations, a real gift you have.

[Jane]

Entirely up to you to think that way. I'm not stopping you.

I think you'll find that there's more to back up my opinion, than yours.

[Caroline]

Does it really matter ? He obviously wanted her opinion on what he should do as neither Sheila nor Jeremy ever stood on their own two feet when it came to decisions. It's easy enough to work out when you had parents who worked out everything for you,and fetched and carried you,the kids grow up senseless and not knowing what to do in times of desperation,therefore taking things in their stride, and asking others.

Clearly is matter because he lied afterwards - he knows it looks bad that not only didn't he call 999, he called his girlfriend FIRST!!