Colin said he would have killed June

[susan]

Exactly! Jeremy wouldn't let Nevill run by him so it makes more sense for Nevill to be standing just inside the door (I didn't say he didn't enter the bedroom). IF he was staying in Sheila's room he would obviously come into the bedroom if he heard a commotion. It explains why there are no casings on the other side of the room relating to Nevill and how he managed to escape to the kitchen.

Caroline
that is a good point we have always wondered why Nevill's blood was not found on the bed or floor in the main bedroom he was not sleeping in that bed that explains his slippers in Sheila's room .

[Caroline]

Caroline
that is a good point we have always wondered why Nevill's blood was not found on the bed or floor in the main bedroom he was not sleeping in that bed hence explains his slippers in Sheila's room .

Exactly!

[maggie]

Caroline
that is a good point we have always wondered why Nevill's blood was not found on the bed or floor in the main bedroom he was not sleeping in that bed that explains his slippers in Sheila's room .

I agree, that makes some sense and would explain some other questions such as how Nevill made it to the kitchen, he couldn't have run past Jeremy with the gun and actually would be hard for him to leave June in the bedroom when he went to all for help but if he couldn't get in the room it makes much more sense for him to run either to the phone or to the gun cupboard via the kitchen or maybe both.

[susan]

I agree, that makes some sense and would explain some other questions such as how Nevill made it to the kitchen, he couldn't have run past Jeremy with the gun and actually would be hard for him to leave June in the bedroom when he went to all for help but if he couldn't get in the room it makes much more sense for him to run either to the phone or to the gun cupboard via the kitchen or maybe both.

Hi Maggie

your points make good sense and add credence to Caroline's post earlier Nevill was never in the main bedroom.

[Jane]

Exactly! Jeremy wouldn't let Nevill run by him so it makes more sense for Nevill to be standing just inside the door (I didn't say he didn't enter the bedroom). IF he was staying in Sheila's room he would obviously come into the bedroom if he heard a commotion. It explains why there are no casings on the other side of the room relating to Nevill and how he managed to escape to the kitchen.

Hmm. Sounds like a better explanation than any we previously seem.

[Jan]

Hmm. Sounds like a better explanation than any we previously seem.

I guess the  "slippers" or  "plimsolls"  is a question?

I think they look like mens slippers  but they are described as plimsolls and flip flops are mentioned as well.

If they are the slippers then I still think he did just lay on Sheilas bed perhaps when June and Sheila were talking.

[Jane]

I guess the  "slippers" or  "plimsolls"  is a question?

I think they look like mens slippers  but they are described as plimsolls and flip flops are mentioned as well.

If they are the slippers then I still think he did just lay on Sheilas bed perhaps when June and Sheila were talking.

By the shape of them I think they're undoubtedly slippers. Brown, fleecy lined, granddad type slippers.

[Caroline]

By the shape of them I think they're undoubtedly slippers. Brown, fleecy lined, granddad type slippers.

Personally, I am in no doubt that they are men's slippers. They are similar to these

[susan]

Personally, I am in no doubt that they are men's slippers.

Caroline/Jane

I third that they are men's slippers.

[maggie]

Caroline/Jane

I third that they are men's slippers.

Deffo men's slippers.

[Jane]

Personally, I am in no doubt that they are men's slippers. They are similar to these

Caroline/Jane

I third that they are men's slippers.

Deffo men's slippers.

By the shape of them I think they're undoubtedly slippers. Brown, fleecy lined, granddad type slippers.

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[scipio_usmc]

Caroline
that is a good point we have always wondered why Nevill's blood was not found on the bed or floor in the main bedroom he was not sleeping in that bed that explains his slippers in Sheila's room .

His blood wasn't found in the bedroom because they didn't test all the blood in there. There probably was a drop or 2 in there though his wounds were not of a nature that there had to be. People keep operating based on false premises.

The bullet that grazed Nevill was found in the bedroom as were the casings associated with that shot and the 3 others her received in the master bedroom.  It is crystal clear he was inside the bedroom when he was shot.

[Caroline]

His blood wasn't found in the bedroom because they didn't test all the blood in there. There probably was a drop or 2 in there though his wounds were not of a nature that there had to be. People keep operating based on false premises.

The bullet that grazed Nevill was found in the bedroom as were the casings associated with that shot and the 3 others her received in the master bedroom.  It is crystal clear he was inside the bedroom when he was shot.

So going by the evidence - they didn't find any of Nevill's blood in the bedroom so you're assuming it was there. However, they did find some outside of Sheila's room so we KNOW he was there. I said I accept that he DID enter the bedroom but NOT all the way in.

[scipio_usmc]

So going by the evidence - they didn't find any of Nevill's blood in the bedroom so you're assuming it was there. However, they did find some outside of Sheila's room so we KNOW he was there. I said I accept that he DID enter the bedroom but NOT all the way in.

They tested the blood in the hall they didn't test most of the blood in the bedroom.  The bullets and casings prove the shots were fired in the bedroom while he was in the bedroom.  His left profile was facing the killer during all 4 of these shots. The location of the casings suggests he was on the bed. The fact 2 of the shots had to have been delivered while he wasn't standing supports him being on the bed.  The blood in the hall at most proves he walked into the hall after he was shot in the master bedroom but we already knew he walked into the hall because he had to in order to get to the kitchen.

Since Jeremy and the weapon were covered in Nevill's blood after the beating the blood could have dripped in the hall from such manner we don't know it came directly from Nevill. That could be why it was only a couple of drops. The drop near Sheila's room could have been dropped by Jeremy as he was going inside.  Otherwise Nevill walked in that part of the hall at first but then turned around and ran down the stairs. It is crystal clear he wasn't injured in the bedroom Sheila was staying in and thus the notion he bled after leaving Sheila's bedroom doesn't work.

Either he bled there after leaving the master bedroom or the blood dripped off Jeremy after the beating.

Nevill was shot 4 times while in the master bedroom.
June was definitely shot 4 times in bed and then 2 more times either in bed or as she was getting out of bed/just got out of bed. This is 10 shots the notion Sheila was shot the same time as June and Nevill is fantasy.  She was shot after Nevill was killed in the kitchen and the boys were as well.

June was shot between the eyes after walking around the bed to Nevill's side then going back to the door. It is unclear whether this shot came initially or after Nevill was killed in the kitchen.  Most likely it was after because it is hard to imagine her walking around the bed through the killer 2 times at all let alone while the gun was still loaded.  Most likely he shot her between the eyes after the kitchen episode. 

[scipio_usmc]

Personally, I am in no doubt that they are men's slippers. They are similar to these

Moccasin slippers are made for females as well as males:

http://shop.nordstrom.com/s/ugg-australia-ansley-slipper-women/3164992?origin=category-personalizedsort&contextualcategoryid=0&fashionColor=Aster+Suede&resultback=500