And so, to the truth about what Cook wrote on the exhibit label of silencer...

[mike tesko]

Every exhibit ever seized in any investigation, has always been given an exhibit reference, commencing with the index reference , "SJ". This is confirmed by notes Stan Jones recorded in his own pocket book entries, so why would DS Jones change the habit of a lifetime, in favour of RON Cook marking the silencer given to him by Jones on 13th August 1985, " SBJ/1"? Why did Ron Cook also make reference in his own notebook that the silencer was labelled, "SJ/1", rather than, " SBJ/1"? You see, there is no evidence that the silencer which DS Jones handed to Ron Cook on the 13th August 1985, which Cook in turn took to the lab' for Glynis Howard to examine, that same date, was ever marked, "SBJ/1", at all...

[scipio_usmc]

Every exhibit ever seized in any investigation, has always been given an exhibit reference, commencing with the index reference , "SJ". This is confirmed by notes Stan Jones recorded in his own pocket book entries, so why would DS Jones change the habit of a lifetime, in favour of RON Cook marking the silencer given to him by Jones on 13th August 1985, " SBJ/1"? Why did Ron Cook also make reference in his own notebook that the silencer was labelled, "SJ/1", rather than, " SBJ/1"? You see, there is no evidence that the silencer which DS Jones handed to Ron Cook on the 13th August 1985, which Cook in turn took to the lab' for Glynis Howard to examine, that same date, was ever marked, "SBJ/1", at all...

Same broken record lies form you...  You already have enough credibility problems becaus eof your criminal history why do you think lying helps you?

Fact: the only existing reference to SJ/1 is in Cook's notebook

Fact: Cook said he wrote down tha the planned to label the moderator handed ot him by Jones SJ/1

Fact: Cook said prior to writing the label up Jones contacted him and provided him with his full initials telling him to use SBJ

Fact: Cook said he didn't know Jones' middle initial and thus didn't know Jones' full initial until Jones contacted him which is why he had originally planned to use SJ

Fact: Cook said he labeled it SBJ/1 and wrote SBJ/1 on the HOLAB forms

Fact: The HOLAB forms in question are indeed marked  SBJ/1

Fact: Glynnis Howard said it was marked SBJ/1 when handed to her and thus wrote SBJ/1 on her Aug 13 examination record.

Fact: All written references subsequent to this also state SBJ/1.

The bottom line is that you are lying as you always lie.  Lies like this can't be used by Jeremy's legal team so are worthless except being used for propaganda purposes to try to fool those ignorant of the facts.

You have nothing legitimate to undermine the moderator evidence so you post nonsense like this to create the appearance of impropriety and then make up grandiose convoluted nonsense about multiple moderators being tested and switched around.  The legal team gave up on this nonsense long ago.

[Adam]

Same broken record lies form you...  You already have enough credibility problems becaus eof your criminal history why do you think lying helps you?

Fact: the only existing reference to SJ/1 is in Cook's notebook

Fact: Cook said he wrote down tha the planned to label the moderator handed ot him by Jones SJ/1

Fact: Cook said prior to writing the label up Jones contacted him and provided him with his full initials telling him to use SBJ

Fact: Cook said he didn't know Jones' middle initial and thus didn't know Jones' full initial until Jones contacted him which is why he had originally planned to use SJ

Fact: Cook said he labeled it SBJ/1 and wrote SBJ/1 on the HOLAB forms

Fact: The HOLAB forms in question are indeed marked  SBJ/1

Fact: Glynnis Howard said it was marked SBJ/1 when handed to her and thus wrote SBJ/1 on her Aug 13 examination record.

Fact: All written references subsequent to this also state SBJ/1.

The bottom line is that you are lying as you always lie.  Lies like this can't be used by Jeremy's legal team so are worthless except being used for propaganda purposes to try to fool those ignorant of the facts.

You have nothing legitimate to undermine the moderator evidence so you post nonsense like this to create the appearance of impropriety and then make up grandiose convoluted nonsense about multiple moderators being tested and switched around.  The legal team gave up on this nonsense long ago.

Thought Scipio was going start his thread by saying 'Good afternoon Mike'.

[scipio_usmc]

No, she raised a thoroughly xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxx that hates having to be wrong, but wrong you are, and a xxxxxx xxxxxxxxx character you also are, is...

I have no vested interest in the case.  Nor have I come up with any theories on my own like other people here do. I accept the official account.  That is where I start from. If someone can disprove the official account with credible evidence I have no problem accepting it.  no one is ever able to do that though.  Instead unsupported speculation, erroneous claims and even outright lies are used. You just repeated the same old lies you always post about Cook's COLP testimony.  You thoroughly distort what he stated to suit your agenda. Lies don't discount the official account.   

Fletcher described bullet PV/20 as whole, so why would another bird brain in your own likeness, describe a bullet as being whole, if in fact it was not whole? Are you for real? You are more stupid than I thought you were . are. The photograph of the bullet, is not a photograph of the bullet (PV/20) referred to by Fletcher, as being whole, but rather it is a photograph of the original badly fragmented bullet shown in the Xray, in a photograph taken by Major Mead in May 1986 - So, thanks for falling into that trap, intended to make you accept that the photograph of the bullet posted on this forum, was a photograph taken by Fletcher himself, ha, ha, ha, you xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx Major Mead took that photograph, not Fletcher, my god, what a complete fool you have just made of yourself. I think you had better crawl back into your hole until you recover your composure...  It represented roughly 2/3 the weight of a complete bullet. Yeah, so it defo' can't be mistaken for a whole bullet, like Fletcher describes the replacement one...   There is no way Fletcher or anybody else would describe a bullet which is only 2/3rds of its original mass, as a whole bullet, but Fletcher does, and did...

None of the bullet fragments examined by Fletcher were whole bullets.  By definition they were all fragments.  He wasn't claiming that they were whole in the sense of being the full weight of an unfired bullet.  You take the lie that he meant they were full weight bullets and then say because the fragments used at trial were not full weight bullets this means bullets were switched.  You are the one posting stupid things not me.

Fact: The bullet fragment shown to Mead and submitted at trial which Fletcher maintains was 2/3 the weight of a complete bullet was matched the Anschutz, is the same bullet Vanezis says he removed and matches the xray. Do you have any evidence from Mead that he felt the rifling on this bullet didn't match the Anschutz? No you do not because he agreed it was fired by the Anschutz.   You try engaging in worthless red herrings instead of dealing with what matters. 

The defense counsel didn't care about why he wrote whole for numerous bullet fragments where the weights he recorded for such fragments were all less than the weight of complete unfired bullets.  They didn't care because it was not important so they didn't ask him about it. Maybe Mead found out why and told the defense counsel and that was why they didn't care.  In any event they didn't care so we have no reason to because why he wrote such has no significance.

You ignore that the weights he recorded reveals the fragments were not whole and were the same fragments submitted at the trial. You always take irrelevant things and try to distort such molehills into mountains.  Such distortions have no legal value whatsoever.  Nothing you post has any value to Jeremy at all in any legal sense.  At most the nonsense you post has propaganda value in being used to try fooling the ignorant.  Fooling ignorant people into believing Jeremy is innocent accomplishes little you do it mainly to aggrandize yourself not to help Jeremy.

No, its not, its true and factual... but this phenomena only occurs when rounds are fired through semi automatic weapons fitted with a silencer

If it were true and factual there would be books and journals noting such.  There are none because this is a figment of Mallinson's imagination and that is why this whole line went no where.  In the meantime Mallinson's report makes no caveat about it applying to semi-autos only.   

"Mallinson's report is posted.  he doesn't state that this bulging only happens in semi-autos he claims it happens in all weapons."

There are a number of reports composed by Mallinson  You are out of order..

So now you are claiming that in one report the one you posted he writes all guns but he contradicts himself in others and writes only semi-autos?  Yeah sure...

I will decide what evidence I post up and when I post it, not you or anybody else. You are not in control of this forum, you are just an agitator whom I choose reluctantly to tolerate... don't expect me to post any more evidence to support my beliefs or the truth, you will simply have to accept that I am telling the truth, because I don't lie like you do...

You lie all the time- you still keep posting the lie (you posted it again a few hours ago) that Cook admitted to COLP he labeled the moderator turned in to him by Jones SJ/1 though his COLP statement says the complete opposite.

Believing you without evidence that proves your claims are accurate is out of the question. 

[mike tesko]

The distortion and bulging phenomena only applies on instances where a silencer has been fitted to the barrel of a semi automatic rifle, due to movement of the spent case within the breach, at the time the casing is being automatically ejected by the extraction mechanism, which creates sufficient space around part of the moving case for this phenomena to occur. This does not happen when a silencer is fitted to the barrel of a bolt action rifle, since there is no such movement of the spent casing in the breach, until the bolt is physhically operated manually. Therefore, there is no opportunity for any distortion or bulging of parts of the spent case because at all times the casing is sat snugly in the breach, until it is manually extracted by the firer manually operating the guns extractor mechanism...

[mike tesko]

During many of the group discussions involving Keith Mallinson, Glen Smith, and myself, about this phenomena, it was pointed out to me in clear unambiguous terms, that the other phenomena known as "backspatter", was less likely to occur in instances where a silencer was fitted to the barrel of a semi automatic rifle, than a bolt action rifle, because there was opportunity for some of the backpressure to dissipitate when slight movement of the spent casing begins its journey from the breach of the gun in its extraction process. The brunt of this backpressure is absorbed into the spent casing, at the time when the casing becomes distorted and bulges. Which in turn significantly reduces the amount of backpressure inside the silencer fitted to its barrel...

[mike tesko]

The principles involved in these two phenomena become important to this case, because the purported murder weapon was the family owned .22 semi automatic anshuzt rifle, and blood appeared to have been drawn back into the silencer, which raises many questions...

[mike tesko]

The principles involved in these two phenomena become important to this case, because the purported murder weapon was the family owned .22 semi automatic anshuzt rifle, and blood appeared to have been drawn back into the silencer, which raises many questions...

To begin with, Fletcher never observed any distortion of bulging in any grouped or individual casing amongst the 25 casings recovered from the scene. Absence of any distortion or bulging on any 1 of the 25 spent casings leàves me in no doubt whatsoever, thàt none of these 25 cartridges had at any stage been loaded, fired, extràcted and ejected from the .22 semi automàtic anshuzt rifle that had been fitted with à  silencer...

[mike tesko]

To begin with, Fletcher never observed any distortion or bulging in any grouped or individual casing amongst the 25 casings recovered from the scene. Absence of any distortion or bulging on any 1 of the 25 spent casings leàves me in no doubt whatsoever, thàt none of these 25 cartridges had at any stage been loàded, fired, extracted and ejected from the .22 semi automàtic anshuzt rifle that had been fitted with à  silencer...

On the other hand, if Sheila's blood had got into the silencer at the time Sheila was shot then at least the blood contàminated silencer was not used on the barrel of the semi automatic rifle  at that time, otherwise, there would almost certainly hàve been evidence of the sort distortion and bulging upon at the very least 1 or 2 casings to signify a distinction between it and use of a non semi automatic rifle...

[mike tesko]

A presence of Sheila's blood in the Silencer, which got there in keeping with the prosecution argument thàt it was fitted to the barrel of the gun, has to exclude the semi automatic anshuzt rifle for all the reasons given aforementioned..

[mike tesko]

This leaves us with a handful of specific eventualities, or issues to be resolved...

[mike tesko]

This leaves us with a handful of specific eventualities, or issues to be resolved...

(1) - which rifle fired the first shot into Sheila's neck? Police who attended the scene had at least one .223 calibre rifle with them in their possession upon arrival at the incident...

(2) - was a silencer fitted to the barrel of the gun at this time? And by this I mean was the blood contaminated silencer fitted to the barrel of (a) the police issue weapon, or (b) AP's bolt action rifle?

(3) - if the silencer was fitted to the gun that fired this shot, it could not have been the semi automatic rifle, because of features associated with the principles of Mallinson. The gun that fired this shot could not have been a .22 semi automatic type, so this excludes the anshuzt rifle, but not a police weapon, or AP's .22 bolt action Bruno rifle...

(4) - Sheila's blood got into the silencer either, when it was attached to the police weapon, or AP's bolt action rifle, or got there through contamination, because use of a semi automatic rifle, with use of subsonic ammunition, and a silencer attached to its barrel, at the time of firing is the least likely combination to produce the phenomena of back spatter. This is because the level of backpressure force back down the barrel due to the silencer being attached at the time of firing, is partially absorbed and dissipitate into and around the spent cartridge case which instantly becomes mobile once the round is fired, allowing the force of the back pressure linked to the attachment of the silencer, to distort and bulge a specific part of the casing on each occasion a round is fired. This amount of back pressure that builds up and imposes itself upon the casing at the time a shot is fired off, is not present when there is no silencer fitted...

[scipio_usmc]

(1) - which rifle fired the first shot into Sheila's neck?
(2) - was a silencer fitted to the barrel of the gun at this time?
(3) - if the silencer was fitted to the gun that fired this shot, it could not have been the semi automatic rifle, because of features associated with the principles of Mallinson. The gun that fired this shot could not have been a .22 semi automatic type, so this excludes the anshuzt rifle, but not a police weapon, or AP's .22 bolt action Bruno rifle...

1) Nevill's rifle- the only 22LR rifle at the house
2) yes the moderator was attached until after the murders were finished
3) complete nonsense

[mike tesko]

Absence of any distortion or bulging on any of the batch of 25 spent cartridge casings indicates non use of a silencer fitted to the barrel of the semi automatic rifle, at the time when the 25 rounds linked to these 25 casings were fired via the anshuzt rifle, at whatever time these 25 casings were extracted and ejected from the semi automatic anshuzt rifle, be it prior to the deaths at whf, during the period when victims were shot and had died, or afterwards in unreported test firings of the anshuzt rifle (known to have taken place)...

[mike tesko]

One thing is certain, Sheila did fire the Anshuzt rifle several times during the tragedy, and her hand / fingers were on the trigger of the anshuzt rifle which fired the fatal shot under her chin. The trigeer guard impression is clearly defined on top of Sheila's right hand in this image, so how anybody can argue she didn't fire the anshuzt rifle, is to be quite frank, beyond even my comprehension...