The meeting with The Sun newspaper:

[nugnug]

i think its funny that jeremy never showed them thses pictures and they never asked to see them.

[Caroline]

i think its funny that jeremy never showed them thses pictures and they never asked to see them.

You don't think it's funny that on the OS they are stating Jeremy didn't have such pictures and yet he described them to Colin and Fielding. Now that's funny!

[nugnug]

but nobodys ever seen thses pictures colin said he hadent seen them so did fielding.

[Caroline]

but nobodys ever seen thses pictures colin said he hadent seen them so did fielding.

But Jeremy SAID they did exist and if they don't, that makes him even weirder! Who would make stuff like that up about their dead sister?? 

[nugnug]

   Had the alleged offer really happened then yes the Sun would have bought the pictures. It would have proven their unlikely tale if they had some evidence of the offer. Had the pictures really been offered then buying them would prove that Jeremy had sold them.
      Alternatively Fielder could have recorded the conversation and captured on tape irrefutable evidence of Bamber attempting to sell nude pictures of his dead sister but he appears not to have done so. I say "appears not to..." because I find it difficult to believe that the meeting with Bamber wasn't recorded if only in the hope of encouraging loose words from him and having undeniable evidence. However the only evidence presented of this offer having taken place is a story in the Sun on the word of a sleazy hack encouraged by the well known defender of truth and justice, Kelvin Mckenzie and backed by nothing else.


iam the same this this isnt really about guilt or innocence its about weather you belive the sun newspapwer and kelvin mckenzie.
        The motives for the Sun colluding in lies and misinformation on behalf of the police are something we don't even need to speculate on. It is a matter of public record since Leveson as are the criminal charges and sentences given to Sun reporters and police officers partly as a result of Leveson.
       This allegation is raised often but funnily enough is never backed up with any evidence which as has been demonstrated would have been simple to acquire had the offer really taken place. The Sun demonstrably disseminated lies and misinformation on behalf of the police at this time on a regular basis and without real evidence (the pictures or a recording of the conversation) it is worthless.
       It just shows that some people are prepared to believe any negative story no matter how unlikely. Even those who believe Bamber guilty should question this story. It sounds too good to be true that the alleged killer is attempting to sell nude pictures of his dead sister to the publication, which we now know ran negative stories about those charged on behalf of the police.
       If I believed Bamber guilty I would still not believe this story because of it's provenance and what we know of this publication regarding their relationship with the police. It seems incredible that so many are willing to believe as fact something based on a "Sun exclusive"
       

i agrea its not about guilt or innocence its about the credibility of the sun newspaper.

[susan]

i agrea its not about guilt or innocence its about the credibility of the sun newspaper.

Hello nugnug

I do agree with your point but I have seen where some posters biased against the Sun newspaper has IMO clouded their judgement on whether he did or did not try to sell the photo's to the Sun.

[nugnug]

im like gringo even if there was no qustion about his guilt i still wouldent belive this story.

[Jane]

SURELY we can't be calling into question the Sun's integrity!!!!! We ALL know, on a scale of 1-10, where it's integrity is.I recall them informing us, during a particularly difficult winter of discontent, when allegedly every other person was jobless and mothers couldn't afford to put turkey on the table at Christmas, that Her Majesty was buying turkeys for her corgis' Christmas treat!!!!....................

.................But weighed against the Sun's definition of integrity is that of the person who was allegedly offering them pornographic pics of the sister he'd murdered. This would be the same person who, having allegedly received a phone-call from his father, who, in his own words, sounded "panicked" and proceeded to diddle away twenty odd minutes idly flicking through the phone book to find the number of a local police station rather that do the more obvious thing and call 999........................

..................It is also worth noting that whilst this person was allegedly wishing to sue a psychologist for saying he was a psychopath, it hasn't been bought to my notice that he has ever issued a denial about trying to sell pictures to the Sun.

[Adam]

For what purpose? They couldn't use the pictures so why would they pay Jeremy for them? That makes no sense at all! They got their story and didn't have to pay a penny for it!!

There were probably some pictures they could have used.

But so soon after the horrific massacre, to post such pictures is too distasteful even for The Sun.

[Adam]

but nobodys ever seen thses pictures colin said he hadent seen them so did fielding.

The pictures certainly existed. Jeremy would have found them when rummaging around Sheila's flat after his extensive partying.

Jeremy also said he had more respectable family pictures. And also offered his life story. Just he did to the NOTW.

[Adam]

im like gringo even if there was no qustion about his guilt i still wouldent belive this story.

There is no question about his guilt.

A handful of people believe the evidence is somehow wrong and hundreds of people have conspired against him. There is no proof of either.

The proof that the pictures existed are from CC, Fielder and The Sun newspaper. Supporters have to prove they are all lying. Rather than claim they are lying for no reason.

[nugnug]

SURELY we can't be calling into question the Sun's integrity!!!!! We ALL know, on a scale of 1-10, where it's integrity is.I recall them informing us, during a particularly difficult winter of discontent, when allegedly every other person was jobless and mothers couldn't afford to put turkey on the table at Christmas, that Her Majesty was buying turkeys for her corgis' Christmas treat!!!!....................

.................But weighed against the Sun's definition of integrity is that of the person who was allegedly offering them pornographic pics of the sister he'd murdered. This would be the same person who, having allegedly received a phone-call from his father, who, in his own words, sounded "panicked" and proceeded to diddle away twenty odd minutes idly flicking through the phone book to find the number of a local police station rather that do the more obvious thing and call 999........................

..................It is also worth noting that whilst this person was allegedly wishing to sue a psychologist for saying he was a psychopath, it hasn't been bought to my notice that he has ever issued a denial about trying to sell pictures to the Sun.

theres also the fact that if somone wanted to sell naughty pictures the news of the world would be there first port of call not the sun.

[susan]

im like gringo even if there was no qustion about his guilt i still wouldent belive this story.

nugnug as I see it how would the Sun know about these photo's if Jeremy had not told them. He told Colin and I suspect elaborated on the contents and Colin wrote Jeremy a letter asking for the photo's back so he could destroy them but the day he posted the letter they appeared front page and the words Jeremy used were virtually the words he had used to Colin and as April quoted had he not tried to sell these photo's he would have been shouting from the rooftops but he would know the Sun reporter would have recorded the conversation in the event of Jeremy wanting to sue.

[lookout]

They were probably all referring to the usual page 3 pics,which are ten a penny.
Any publications of Sheila's alleged nudity would have been " top shelf " material.

[Jane]

theres also the fact that if somone wanted to sell naughty pictures the news of the world would be there first port of call not the sun.

Possibly, but Jeremy has never denied their existence OR trying to sell them. In that his sleaze publication of choice is irrelevant.