Russia - worrying?

[David1819]

Is this your current employer Gringo? 

https://www.rferl.org/a/russian-troll-factory-hacking/31076160.html

[gringo]

     David, everybody else contributing to this thread are discussing without the need for childish tactics of Gifs and flag waving. Your nothing to add contributions pollute the thread and you come across as childish. Lookout, Roch, Nugnug, Steve and myself have all managed to post without the need for such childishness. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, then I would suggest you go back to your playstation and leave the adults to discuss without your idiocy.

[David1819]

While Putin wears Loro Piana coats that sells for nearly $14,000 a piece. And his Oil oligarchs buy mega-yatchs worth up to 500 million. 25% of the Russian population are without a toilet.

https://russialist.org/one-russian-in-four-lacks-an-indoor-toilet-one-of-many-signs-there-are-now-four-distinct-russias/

https://qz.com/2145468/putin-wore-a-14000-puffer-jacket-to-ukraine-invasion-rally/

[David1819]

     David, everybody else contributing to this thread are discussing without the need for childish tactics of Gifs and flag waving. Your nothing to add contributions pollute the thread and you come across as childish. Lookout, Roch, Nugnug, Steve and myself have all managed to post without the need for such childishness. If you have nothing to add to the discussion, then I would suggest you go back to your playstation and leave the adults to discuss without your idiocy.

I don't have a PlayStation. But OK.

[David1819]

Gringo what do you make of Putin having £10,000 Loro Piana jackets and his oligarchs like Kerimov owning 350ft long luxury yachts while 1 in 4 Russians don't have a toilet or running water? Is that NATOs fault also?

[gringo]

     Poroshenko, then President, after the coup in 2014 and before the meeting in 2016 in the above post with US senators;

https://twitter.com/WarKamikaze/status/1519866610231689217

Transcribed for you below,
President Poroshenko, calling for a cleansing in Donbass. "We will have work, they will not. We will have pensions, they will not. Our children go to schools and nurseries, yours will hide in basements."

    The Ukrainian govt. have never hidden their intent to ethnically cleanse the Eastern and Ethnic Russian areas. They admit a policy of planned genocide. You can readily find an absolute abundance of evidence showing the intent and crimes of the post 2014 Maidan coup Ukie govt. How is it possible to require further evidence of their intent and crimes?

    When the actual president of the country states this, we can be in no doubt that this is official policy. He is not some rogue Ukrainian Piers Morgan saying controversial things for effect. This is the actual President in 2014.
    Fairly recently Roch linked to a documentary by a French film maker, whose name I forget. The documentary was about the ongoing crimes in Donbass and really good. Oliver Stone's "Ukraine on Fire" documentary from 2016 is also an info packed hour and a half of otherwise unreported facts and background. Both are worth a watch.

[gringo]

Gringo what do you make of Putin having £10,000 Loro Piana jackets and his oligarchs like Kerimov owning 350ft long luxury yachts while 1 in 4 Russians don't have a toilet or running water? Is that NATOs fault also?

    I don't make anything of it. Gossip about what jackets Putin wears, "Putin's oligarchs" yachts and uninformed chatter about Russian living standards is not something worth wasting valuable thinking time on, except for the simple minded.
   What do you think about it?

[Steve_uk]

Gringo what do you make of Putin having £10,000 Loro Piana jackets and his oligarchs like Kerimov owning 350ft long luxury yachts while 1 in 4 Russians don't have a toilet or running water? Is that NATOs fault also?

    I don't make anything of it. Gossip about what jackets Putin wears, "Putin's oligarchs" yachts and uninformed chatter about Russian living standards is not something worth wasting valuable thinking time on, except for the simple minded.
   What do you think about it?

..and yet Putin's henchmen have been systematically murdering them when the time is propitious. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/suspicious-deaths-six-russian-oligarchs-26881083

[gringo]

..and yet Putin's henchmen have been systematically murdering them when the time is propitious. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/suspicious-deaths-six-russian-oligarchs-26881083

    Steve, contrary to western MSM reporting, Putin does not personally order every murder in Russia. It is a ridiculous caricature that you should be seeing through by now.

[David1819]

Gringo what do you make of Putin having £10,000 Loro Piana jackets and his oligarchs like Kerimov owning 350ft long luxury yachts while 1 in 4 Russians don't have a toilet or running water? Is that NATOs fault also?

    I don't make anything of it. Gossip about what jackets Putin wears, "Putin's oligarchs" yachts and uninformed chatter about Russian living standards is not something worth wasting valuable thinking time on, except for the simple minded.
   What do you think about it?

So, you think its OK for him to spend £10,000 of his peoples money on a designer Italian coat and letting his Oligarchs plunder Russian oil for mega yachts and football clubs. While millions of Russians are without basic necessities? That's your idea of righteous government that should be held in high regard?

PS: the Russia’s state statistical agency is not "uninformed chatter".

[gringo]

So, you thinks its OK for him to spend £10,000 of his peoples money on a designer Italian coat and letting his Oligarchs plunder Russian oil for mega yachts and football clubs. While millions of Russians are without basic necessities? That's your idea of righteous government that should be held in high regard?

PS: the Russia’s state statistical agency is not "uninformed chatter".

    The interpretation of those statistics is the uninformed chatter. Johnsons blog? Link to the stats not some halfwitted and biased interpretation. You have a very loose definition of what should be considered facts. Putin's jackets?
    What is the relevance?
    What do you think about then Ukrainian President Poroshenko, in 2014, saying, "Our children go to schools and nurseries, yours will hide in basements" ?
    What do you think the Ukrainian President meant when he said that Ukrainian children in the Donbass region would "hide in basements" ?
    Bit more relevant than Putin's coat, so do you have an opinion on this statement of the Ukrainian president?

[David1819]

Two Ukrainian Su-27 striking Russian facilities on the famous Snake Island in the Black Sea, in remarkable footage filmed by a TB-2 drone. As we can observe, there is serious damage

https://liveuamap.com/en/2022/7-may-two-ukrainian-su27-striking-russian-facilities-on-the

[gringo]

What do you think about then Ukrainian President Poroshenko, in 2014, saying, "Our children go to schools and nurseries, yours will hide in basements" ?
    What do you think the Ukrainian President meant when he said that Ukrainian children in the Donbass region would "hide in basements" ?
    Bit more relevant than Putin's coat, so do you have an opinion on this statement of the Ukrainian president?

   David when you ask questions and have opinions on Putin's coat but studiously avoid questions like those posed above, then you cannot be taken seriously. Same old story, you can't tackle the difficult facts so choose to ignore them and divert onto something else.
    Don't you have any thoughts on the Ukrainian president explicitly threatening war on Ukrainian children?

[David1819]

The total exports from China to the Russian Federation has decreased by 27 percent since the beginning of Russia's war against Ukraine. A number of major Chinese tech companies including Lenovo and Xiaomi are quietly winding down their business in Russia.

[gringo]

The total exports from China to the Russian Federation has decreased by 27 percent since the beginning of Russia's war against Ukraine. A number of major Chinese tech companies including Lenovo and Xiaomi are quietly winding down their business in Russia.

   More diversions because you cannot find an answer to the inconvenient facts that destroy the narrative that you adhere to.
     Russia, China trade is surging you absolute idiot as any quick search would tell you. Here are a couple for you to start.

     China's trade with Russia up by 12% in March from a year earlier, from the Guardian(not known for a Russia friendly stance) below;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/13/chinas-trade-with-russia-up-by-12-in-march-from-a-year-earlier
     Or this one, from the BBC( again not exactly pro Russian in their reporting)
     Here is an excerpt below in red;

Bilateral trade with Russia surged in the first quarter of the year, rising by 28% from the previous year, according to Chinese customs data.

In March, after Russia launched its invasion, overall trade between the two countries rose over 12% from a year earlier.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/60571253

    I could go on. There are countless articles in Western MSM as well as the two above (Forbes, Reuters, CNN etc.) talking about the surging trade between China and Russia. An undeniable fact but you still deny it. You are blinkered and not interested in debate.
    And apparently you think it unworthy of consideration when a President of a country threatens military action and shelling on children of that country.
    Still no answer to this question, David.
    Are you going to post something about dead generals as your next diversion?