Photographic still image taken from crime scene video - The shocking truth...

[Reader]

Jeremy said he now has all the PII stuff . . .

It wasn't just PII stuff that wasn't disclosed. For example, Essex Police refused to disclose their records of what police weapons and ammunition were issued and what police ammunition was returned.

[Roch]

If it's not about framing, then the silencer is legitimate.

Campion might have said that this is very apposite. 

It seems to me that for a long time now, the only real main argument has been the following:

Framed because guilty/had involvement (but insufficient evidence available)

Vs

Framed despite being innocent/having no involvement (thus insufficient evidence in the first place)

[Reader]

Framing is one thing - fitting up is another.

[Roch]

Framing is one thing - fitting up is another.

I thought they were interchangeable.  How would you describe the difference?

[Jan]

It wasn't just PII stuff that wasn't disclosed. For example, Essex Police refused to disclose their records of what police weapons and ammunition were issued and what police ammunition was returned.

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that's interesting

I did not know that.

[Caroline]

Framing is one thing - fitting up is another.

They're the same thing.

[Caroline]

It wasn't just PII stuff that wasn't disclosed. For example, Essex Police refused to disclose their records of what police weapons and ammunition were issued and what police ammunition was returned.

For every mystery solved - another is added 

[scipio_usmc]

For every mystery solved - another is added 

Not really since they didn't have any 22 LR weapons and all the bullets used on the victims were 22LR.  At any rate some of the officers noted in their statements their weapons which happen to be the standard ones of the era for that department the Ruger Mini-14. They can fire either .223 or 5.56mm which even though some use these interchangeably they are actually slightly different calibers.  5.56mm is a little wider and thus not all weapons that can fire .223 can fire 5.56mm.  Some modern Mini-14s can only handle .223 but the ones from that era all could handle either round. The rifling is 6 lands and grooves, right hand twist, 1:9 (1 full revolution for every 9 inches it travels in the barrel).

This is 22LR next to .223 and the second pic is 22LR next to 5.56mm





This compares .223 and 5.56mm



Note that the .223 and 5.56 ammo is jacketed while the 22LR at WHF wasn't.  That is why it left lead marks on the hand of someone loading it, the lead was exposed not covered by a jacket.  Apart form the size of the bullets being different the coroner would have found jackets from the police rounds in the victims had they been fired into any of them. 

[Caroline]

Not really since they didn't have any 22 LR weapons and all the bullets used on the victims were 22LR.  At any rate some of the officers noted in their statements their weapons which happen to be the standard ones of the era for that department the Ruger Mini-14. They can fire either .223 or 5.56mm which even though some use these interchangeably they are actually slightly different calibers.  5.56mm is a little wider and thus not all weapons that can fire .223 can fire 5.56mm.  Some modern Mini-14s can only handle .223 but the ones from that era all could handle either round. The rifling is 6 lands and grooves, right hand twist, 1:9 (1 full revolution for every 9 inches it travels in the barrel).

This is 22LR next to .223 and the second pic is 22LR next to 5.56mm





This compares .223 and 5.56mm



Note that the .223 and 5.56 ammo is jacketed while the 22LR at WHF wasn't.  That is why it left lead marks on the hand of someone loading it, the lead was exposed not covered by a jacket.  Apart form the size of the bullets being different the coroner would have found jackets from the police rounds in the victims had they been fired into any of them.

I was being sarcastic.

[Reader]

. . . all the bullets used on the victims were 22LR.

How do you know that in respect of the first bullet that hit Sheila and broke into fragments?

[Jane]

How do you know that in respect of the first bullet that hit Sheila and broke into fragments?

Oh dear, that really IS splitting hairs -or, should I say, BULLETS?

[scipio_usmc]

How do you know that in respect of the first bullet that hit Sheila and broke into fragments?

Pretty much all bullets recovered from victims are just fragments of bullets, it is extremely rare for a bullet to be fully intact.  The fragments were determined to be fragments from a 22LR bullet. They look at every aspect they could to assess the caliber and even the brand.  They try to get as specific as possible.  When they can detect lands and grooves they use that to assess the rifling characteristics of the weapon that fired it. They also assess the casings because spent casings can be tied to a specific weapon by the firing pin impressions, breech marks, and ejection marks. The 25 casings these 25 were fired from were all assessed to have been fired by Jeremy's Anschutz.

None of the bullets that killed the victims had any jackets because the remnants of no jackets were found.  That alone is an indication unjacketed bullets are used.  Assessing the size and other characteristics of the fragments helps narrow down the caliber and even exact model of ammunition. It was all determined to be Eley 22LR like Neville purchased and had stored at WHF. 
   

[lookout]

Copper-coated bullets leave little if no residue like lead-coated ones.

[scipio_usmc]

Copper-coated bullets leave little if no residue like lead-coated ones.

Jacketed bullet leave no lead residue on the hands from handling them.  The unjackets bullets used in the murders are why the lead would have been on the killers hands from loading.  Had they been jacketed that avenue of inquiry would have been unavailable.   Unjacketed bullets also eject more lead from the barrel. A jacketed bullet has the lands and grooves scribed into the jacket. Unjacketed bullets have them scribed into the lead itself so tiny fragments break off and are projected out along with the gases and unburned gunpowder. The relevance such can hold varies from case to case.

 

[lookout]

Jacketed bullet leave no lead residue on the hands from handling them.  The unjackets bullets used in the murders are why the lead would have been on the killers hands from loading.  Had they been jacketed that avenue of inquiry would have been unavailable.   Unjacketed bullets also eject more lead from the barrel. A jacketed bullet has the lands and grooves scribed into the jacket. Unjacketed bullets have them scribed into the lead itself so tiny fragments break off and are projected out along with the gases and unburned gunpowder. The relevance such can hold varies from case to case.

I've more or less said that using 12 words.