Crime Scene Photograph

[Patti]

You can see that its S3 and does taper to the right.

[lookout]

I wonder if that's where the bloodied cobweb was that AE reported 10 years later.

[Patti]

Who wants to see an empty cupboard ? It tells you nothing at all.What we need to see is as it was and where this ere silencer was " hidden ".

If they took things out of the cupboard why did they not take everything out like the ammo and silencer?

  Nothing appears right in this case.

They could have emptied it, they might not have emptied it. They searched it, but found nothing, they photographed an empty gun cupboard....my sides hurt with laughing.

Scratch marks on the mantle....one would have to have been very small to have held the rifle with a moderator on and scratch that....on their knees even. 

[Mr. Gee]

Who wants to see an empty cupboard ? It tells you nothing at all.What we need to see is as it was and where this ere silencer was " hidden ".

Probably in order to give an idea of the room and where the guns were normally kept I should think? There is another picture with one of the guns in it.

[Caroline]

If they took things out of the cupboard why did they not take everything out like the ammo and silencer?

  Nothing appears right in this case.

They could have emptied it, they might not have emptied it. They searched it, but found nothing, they photographed an empty gun cupboard....my sides hurt with laughing.

Scratch marks on the mantle....one would have to have been very small to have held the rifle with a moderator on and scratch that....on their knees even. 

Several pictures were taken a few years later when AE lived there, we don't know if thsi isn't one of those. The one with the desk in front looks more like a CS picture and there is definitely something in the cupboard - it looks like a box.   

[lookout]

Probably in order to give an idea of the room and where the guns were normally kept I should think? There is another picture with one of the guns in it.

I think I may have seen the " full " cupboard at some point.

[Patti]

Several pictures were taken a few years later when AE lived there, we don't know if thsi isn't one of those. The one with the desk in front looks more like a CS picture and there is definitely something in the cupboard - it looks like a box. 

Well I thought that at first but, you can see the envelope is still there and the plastic box on the floor, so it could not have been taken years after because years after AE has her own furniture in there.

I can't see no box in the cupboard at all from the CS photo that you refer to.  All I can see is the edge of the cushion that sticks out from the chair. Other than that it is impossible to tell.

[mike tesko]

I think the two photographs posted in this thread were tajen for another purpose...

[Patti]

I think the two photographs posted in this thread were tajen for another purpose...

Hi Mike

What purpose? 

[Caroline]

Well I thought that at first but, you can see the envelope is still there and the plastic box on the floor, so it could not have been taken years after because years after AE has her own furniture in there.

I can't see no box in the cupboard at all from the CS photo that you refer to.  All I can see is the edge of the cushion that sticks out from the chair. Other than that it is impossible to tell.

What can I say? It looks like a box to me.

[Alias]

This picture is slightly clearer.

[Alias]

I think the photographs were taken the same day. As Patti says, the same items are in the room.
After a death, you go through paperwork (and everything else) from the passed, you don´t leave envelopes on the floor for seven years!

It does look like there was something in the cupboard in one of the photos. In the other, the cupboard has been emptied - thoroughly it seems. Why empty it half-way - even if the cupboard stretches a little to the right out of our view in the photo?

[lookout]

There must be a space deeper than what we can see to house the rifles-12 ? pieces of firearms,as they wouldn't have all fitted in there even at an angle,with cases and ammunition.

[Caroline]

I think the photographs were taken the same day. As Patti says, the same items are in the room.
After a death, you go through paperwork (and everything else) from the passed, you don´t leave envelopes on the floor for seven years!

It does look like there was something in the cupboard in one of the photos. In the other, the cupboard has been emptied - thoroughly it seems. Why empty it half-way - even if the cupboard stretches a little to the right out of our view in the photo?

They probably took the second picture to show the depth/size of the cupboard. You can't get a feel for that with the table in the way etc. Perhaps it was even taken after the 'finding'  of the silencer?

[Patti]

I think it might have been taken after the moderator was found, because the rifle has been removed and replaced with a fishing rod it seems or what looked like a rifle covered up was actually a fishing rod in the first place, but had been uncovered at some point.

Nonetheless, the photograph its self does not mean much, the closet is empty.

Not sure if its shadows or a box inside the original pic....It might be worth looking at the order of photograph shots made by ? His name has left me for a moment. Its on the forum somewhere.