'Bob' Millers notebook, confirms SC's body found on bed, and RB sat on chair...

[Gillian]

Hi - Does anyone know if there are any photographs of Bob Miller anywhere?  I am desperately trying to put names to faces.  Thanks.   

[Blodwynflower]

Hi - Does anyone know if there are any photographs of Bob Miller anywhere?  I am desperately trying to put names to faces.  Thanks.   

Gillian, an earlier thread of mine.....

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1725.msg53816.html#msg53816

I hope this helps.....

[Blodwynflower]

Gillian, an earlier thread of mine.....

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1725.msg53816.html#msg53816

I hope this helps.....

I think that it may have been archived, sorry.....

[Blodwynflower]

Gillian, if you google "Bob Miller" Essex, and click on images, the second photograph is of Miller and Sir Trevor Brooking.

[Blodwynflower]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYinkO96k3Q

Twenty seconds from the start.....

[bloggs and son]

Hi Grahame - IMO this is what Bob Miller wrote in his notebook.  I hope it helps. 

"9:30 a.m. Upstairs bedroom on right hand side at top of stairs see woman by door (wife) covered in blood.  Marks to neck.  In same room far side of bed daughter with .22 rifle by her right side.  Appears to have gunshot wounds to neck.  Bible laying alongside".

Thanks for that Gillian. My old eyesight is failing these days.
That statement "far side of bed" is a bit ambiguous to me and could be interpreted both ways?  Although "with .22 rifle by her right side" seems to suggest that either her or the rifle had been moved?
Then again the position of the body of June seems to be consistent with the official statement of facts? For if the bodies of Sheila and June were both on the bed as Mike's photo and Ann Eaton's statement suggests. Then why was Junes body on the floor?

[Gillian]

Hi Blodwynflower - Thanks so much for that.   

[Gillian]

Hi Mike - Regarding #98.  Please accept my apologies.  I have just realised you posted this before I edited my post to read "far side of bed".  Sorry.   

[Jane]

Is it possible to clarify "far side of bed." It could indicate either "that side of bed furthest from door" which is what I would take it to mean, or "on the floor, beyond bed."

[bloggs and son]

Is it possible to clarify "far side of bed." It could indicate either "that side of bed furthest from door" which is what I would take it to mean, or "on the floor, beyond bed."

That is the big question April. It is too nebulous and can be taken both ways. An indication could be drawn from the words, "Gun on her right side". Whereas the raid team statements (perhaps collusion) read "Gun across body". Or words to that effect

[Jane]

Thanks for that Graheme alias et al. Have had so many unanswered post lately, was beginning to think I didn't exist!!!!!!

[NewChilledOutHartley]

That is the big question April. It is too nebulous and can be taken both ways. An indication could be drawn from the words, "Gun on her right side". Whereas the raid team statements (perhaps collusion) read "Gun across body". Or words to that effect

I think even the wording of the rifle location is contentious, Sheila was on the floor on her back and the rifle was on her body, on the right hand side of her body.

I don't think that either points are contradictory enough to show an alternative scenario to that officially reported, it certainly wouldn't be entertained as a ground of appeal in isolation.

[bloggs and son]

Thanks for that Graheme alias et al. Have had so many unanswered post lately, was beginning to think I didn't exist!!!!!!

Who said that??

[bloggs and son]

I think even the wording of the rifle location is contentious, Sheila was on the floor on her back and the rifle was on her body, on the right hand side of her body.

I don't think that either points are contradictory enough to show an alternative scenario to that officially reported, it certainly wouldn't be entertained as a ground of appeal in isolation.

Well that's what I think. Unfortunately I don't think Millers notebook can be used in order to prove that sheila was on the bed. I would think he referred to her as being on the floor? For the simple reason that June's body was behind the door and not on the bed as suggested in the alleged photograph?

[Jane]

Okay Guys, now I have your attention, PLEASE can somebody explain this to me.

Mike asserts that the police said that Jeremy "stage managed" Sheila's body to make it appear that she had shot herself. My question is this. Would that "stage management" have occured at Position 1 (kitchen floor). Position 2 (main bedroom, on bed). Position 3a (on floor, with hand laying on gun) or Position 3b (hand appearing to be on trigger)

Mike also says that Jeremy was there when DC Clarke told Ann Eaton that Sheila was found in Position 2, which surely means he couldn't have arranged her into Positions 3a or 3b when he supposedly murdered her. Any ideas?