Unlikely Suicides .....

[Caroline]

It is considered odd that Sheila shot herself twice. Well, the following is a link to an account of a local case, where they still can't be sure if the victim (Solicitor Peter Maine) was murdered or killed himself - even though, he was stabbed 3 times (twice in the heart) and police never recovered the weapon!!

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11707912.Open_verdict_at_inquest_into_mysterious_death_of_County_Durham_solicitor_Peter_Maine/

[Jane]

It is considered odd that Sheila shot herself twice. Well, the following is a link to an account of a local case, where they still can't be sure if the victim (Solicitor Peter Maine) was murdered or killed himself - even though, he was stabbed 3 times (twice in the heart) and police never recovered the weapon!!

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/11707912.Open_verdict_at_inquest_into_mysterious_death_of_County_Durham_solicitor_Peter_Maine/

Just goes to show that anomalies throw up all the time. Terrible for the family to be left in limbo.

[Steve_uk]

A strange case Caroline. I would have thought that there were more painless ways to do away with oneself.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30712610

[Caroline]

A strange case Caroline. I would have thought that there were more painless ways to do away with oneself.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-30712610

Yes Steve, very strange indeed. I think it unlikely that it was a suicide simply because they found no weapon but the fact that it's considered possible in this case - is food for thought.

[Alias]

A (lovely) friend of mine slit his own throat.
He was in a psychosis, but no one would help. His brother and a friend took him to the emergency room (before the suicide), but they sent him home. They took him again, they sent him home again. The brother and the friend had stayed awake without proper food for more than 24 hours. Guess they also just needed a break and perhaps talk, so they both left to get some food. When they came back, he had slit his throat. There was blood everywhere, crazy much blood, he must have moved around. 
You wouldn´t think that a person would do that at all, slit his own throat!

[Steve_uk]

A (lovely) friend of mine slit his own throat.
He was in a psychosis, but no one would help. His brother and a friend took him to the emergency room (before the suicide), but they sent him home. They took him again, they sent him home again. The brother and the friend had stayed awake without proper food for more than 24 hours. Guess they also just needed a break and perhaps talk, so they both left to get some food. When they came back, he had slit his throat. There was blood everywhere, crazy much blood, he must have moved around. 
You wouldn´t think that a person would do that at all, slit his own throat!

People with a mental health issue are far more a danger to themselves and I believe that Sheila fell into that category,but of course the media is not interested in the mundane,only the sensationalist.

[Caroline]

A (lovely) friend of mine slit his own throat.
He was in a psychosis, but no one would help. His brother and a friend took him to the emergency room (before the suicide), but they sent him home. They took him again, they sent him home again. The brother and the friend had stayed awake without proper food for more than 24 hours. Guess they also just needed a break and perhaps talk, so they both left to get some food. When they came back, he had slit his throat. There was blood everywhere, crazy much blood, he must have moved around. 
You wouldn´t think that a person would do that at all, slit his own throat!

That's awful Alias - terrible for someone to discover something so distressing and even sadder that your friend couldn't get the help he needed.

It does just go to show though, that there are always exceptions to what might be considered the norm and although shooting yourself twice might be considered odd - it's not impossible.

[Alias]

That's awful Alias - terrible for someone to discover something so distressing and even sadder that your friend couldn't get the help he needed.

It does just go to show though, that there are always exceptions to what might be considered the norm and although shooting yourself twice might be considered odd - it's not impossible.

Yes, awful, also for his younger brother especially, but also the friend.

Tried to google multiple gunshot suicides. A (small) study shows that 3.6% of gunshot suicides involved two shots to the head. One FOUR shots!

[lookout]

4 shots ? Oh dear.

[Jan]

 These are all such sad stories .

To add to them unfortunately a friend I used to work with her brother committed suicide with No prior signs at all - no depression , no threats  no nothing .She felt sure there must have been signs but the whole family was totally shocked

This one is even sadder - my DIL has a family member  who was diagnosed with cancer and just before Christmas this year she was finding it very hard to cope .

Her husband said to her to go upstairs and have a rest and he would look after the young children.

When he went back upstairs she had hung herself. 

He said he is in total shock - he never thought she would do that especially with the children in the house . None of them have been able to go in the house since.

So sad.

[Alias]

These are all such sad stories .

To add to them unfortunately a friend I used to work with her brother committed suicide with No prior signs at all - no depression , no threats  no nothing .She felt sure there must have been signs but the whole family was totally shocked

This one is even sadder - my DIL has a family member  who was diagnosed with cancer and just before Christmas this year she was finding it very hard to cope .

Her husband said to her to go upstairs and have a rest and he would look after the young children.

When he went back upstairs she had hung herself. 

He said he is in total shock - he never thought she would do that especially with the children in the house . None of them have been able to go in the house since.

So sad.

Oh, God, that is so incredibly sad and heart breaking!
I am glad none of the children found her dead. I know a woman who found her father hung when she was fourteen, and she has been pretty much messed up ever since. 

[Jane]

Oh, God, that is so incredibly sad and heart breaking!
I am glad none of the children found her dead. I know a woman who found her father hung when she was fourteen, and she has been pretty much messed up ever since. 

It absolutely is, Alias.  I'm not going to add the stories I know because I fear we may be in danger of unwittingly "topping" the previous story told and I'm mindful that some of our members may have had this tragic experience in their own families/friends. All I WILL say is that wherever it touches, it leaves the question "Could I have prevented this thing from happening"? The answer, in my experience, is "Probably not."

[lookout]

A lovely work colleague of mine took her life,for no apparent reason. Lovely person,married,two young children,good husband,lovely home I believe and she'd not long bought herself a new BMW pale blue car,a beauty. The woman showed no outer signs whatsoever as she always appeared pleasant and relaxed.Loved her work and got on with everyone. This happened about the mid 90's and I remember it well,being told after she didn't turn up for work,that her car had been found,woman inside,dead.
None of us could fathom out why and it was a huge shock to us all,asking questions for weeks after,but never getting to find out why or how. It was heartbreaking,as I can see her now as I talk about her. She was literally perfect in every way. Very attractive,always beautifully dressed and very smart. Good at her job and popular with it.
None of us could make any sense of it at all. She'd dropped the children off at school before she vanished. Poor poor woman. It just knocked me for six at the time.

[Jan]

I think the sad cases prove that sometimes there is no logical reason for such a sad action - and to try and apply such logic , for example saying she would have stayed with the twins is not necessarily true.

Also I did some reading up on the two shot scenario , and as said before it is not uncommon.

[lookout]

 Two shots aren't uncommon but given Sheilas' determination in wanting to end her life,I'm left wondering why she didn't get it right first time ( my apologies for sounding flippant but it's my belief that the first shot was administered by another hand,accidentally )