New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to police...

[Kaldin]

Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.

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He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...

How do you know that?

He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.

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He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...

He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...

The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-

The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...

He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?

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That was a matter for him, but he did make notes in his own handwriting and he did copy crucial documentation from the original file, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances", and but for his death, he would have exposed what really did take place, rather than expose JB to the possibility, of being convicted for murders he could not, and did not commit...

His distant relatives are now ensuring that the truth will finally be told...

Like I said, he had nine months to ensure that Jeremy was not even brought to trial, and he had a month to ensure that Jeremy was not even arrested. There was no reason for him to wait for the trial.

[Roch]

Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.

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He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...

How do you know that?

He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.

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He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...

He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...

The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-

The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...

He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?

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That was a matter for him, but he did make notes in his own handwriting and he did copy crucial documentation from the original file, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances", and but for his death, he would have exposed what really did take place, rather than expose JB to the possibility, of being convicted for murders he could not, and did not commit...

His distant relatives are now ensuring that the truth will finally be told...

Like I said, he had nine months to ensure that Jeremy was not even brought to trial, and he had a month to ensure that Jeremy was not even arrested. There was no reason for him to wait for the trial.

Mike... why has it taken his distant relatives so long to attempt to clear Taff's name?  Who did they take the document to first... Arthur Negis?

[Kaldin]

Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.

--------------

He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...

How do you know that?

He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.

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He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...

He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...

The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-

The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...

He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?

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That was a matter for him, but he did make notes in his own handwriting and he did copy crucial documentation from the original file, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances", and but for his death, he would have exposed what really did take place, rather than expose JB to the possibility, of being convicted for murders he could not, and did not commit...

His distant relatives are now ensuring that the truth will finally be told...

Like I said, he had nine months to ensure that Jeremy was not even brought to trial, and he had a month to ensure that Jeremy was not even arrested. There was no reason for him to wait for the trial.

Mike... why has it taken his distant relatives so long to attempt to clear Taff's name?  Who did they take the document to first... Arthur Negis?

How are they clearing Taff's name? If he did speak to Sheila, he's the one who kept that secret from Jeremy - that could have cleared Jeremy and yet Taff "forgot" to mention it to him?

[jon]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

[Kaldin]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

I'm not sure what you mean. 

[jon]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

I'm not sure what you mean. 

Well you seem to want to be more worried about why he never said anything before instead of saying '  the truth is more important than anything , no matter how it comes out ' as you surely want the truth dont you or do you ?

[Kaldin]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

I'm not sure what you mean. 

Well you seem to want to be more worried about why he never said anything before instead of saying '  the truth is more important than anything , not matter how it comes out ' as you surely want the truth dont you or do you ?

My point is that I'm not convinced it happened because if it had I think it would have been mentioned 25 years ago. The main problem on this site is there are wild claims which are not backed up. Mike is not going to post proof of any of this, so at the moment it's speculation.

[jon]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

I'm not sure what you mean. 

Well you seem to want to be more worried about why he never said anything before instead of saying '  the truth is more important than anything , not matter how it comes out ' as you surely want the truth dont you or do you ?

My point is that I'm not convinced it happened because if it had I think it would have been mentioned 25 years ago. The main problem on this site is there are wild claims which are not backed up. Mike is not going to post proof of any of this, so at the moment it's speculation.

Fair enough , let's just hope for the sake of everyone the truth come's out , i am sure you can bring yourself to agree with that

[ngb1066]

New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to police

In the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...

Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...

Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...

Mike

I recall that you mentioned the possibilty of a tape recording of conversations with Sheila in WHF. Has the this now been confirmed to you and if so is this also being submitted to the CCRC?

[Kaldin]

Why is anyone worried about anything apart from the FACT that a man may be released from prison for a crime he did not commit !!

I'm not sure what you mean. 

Well you seem to want to be more worried about why he never said anything before instead of saying '  the truth is more important than anything , not matter how it comes out ' as you surely want the truth dont you or do you ?

My point is that I'm not convinced it happened because if it had I think it would have been mentioned 25 years ago. The main problem on this site is there are wild claims which are not backed up. Mike is not going to post proof of any of this, so at the moment it's speculation.

Fair enough , let's just hope for the sake of everyone the truth come's out , i am sure you can bring yourself to agree with that

Yes of course. If it turns out that Jones did speak to Sheila and there is defininite proof of that, I shall be the first to say that Jeremy should be released without delay. If there is proof that Sheila was alive in the kitchen and that there was a cover up, I shall be the first to say that prosecutions should follow. If it can be shown that lies were told at the trial, I shall be the first to say that there should be consequences for those who told them.

In the meantime, I can't say any of those things because there is no proof, so all I can do is ask for it and cast doubt on any wild claims which appear to come out of the blue.

[Roch]

New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to police

In the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...

Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...

Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...

Mike, is there any handwriting on the documents?

[chochokeira]

New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to police

In the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...

Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...

Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...

I come home for some lunch and find this astonishing post. If Taff Jones's note book and/ or other key documents - which can be proven to be authentic - have surfaced after all these years and establish that Sheila was alive while Jeremy was outside the farm, then Jeremy Bamber will surely soon be a free man.

If these new documents are authentic, then how can this fail to be indicative of the mother and father of a cover up, with Taff Jones up to his neck in it? Or why else would Jones have allowed the case to progress as he did?

No need to tell you that it's not just the authenticity of whatever documents have surfaced which must be meticulously established, Mike, but also the relationship claims of the person claiming to be a distant relative of Taff's - and I mean no disrespect to this person. The official document trail between Jones and the distant relation will need to be 100% watertight to support the authenticity of this new data.

If Jeremy' defence has not already obtained the relevent document trail verifying the ID of the document owner and his/her relationship with Jones beyond doubt, they must urgently do so. Such documents can be quickly checked in an hour or so and copies of documents proving the relationship ordered on line for next day delivery.

[mike tesko]

Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.

--------------

He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...

How do you know that?

He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.

-----------------

He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...

He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...

The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-

The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...

He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?

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The cover up was designed to protect the image and reputation of EP, but if "Taff" Jones had not died he would have testified at JB's trial and told the truth...

[mike tesko]

Taff Jones had nine months in which to tell a lot of people if he spoke to Sheila. He apparently didn't tell anyone.

--------------

He discussed it at length with all the other senior police officers who were involved in the cover up...

How do you know that?

He didn't bother to tell the relatives that he spoke to Sheila did he? He also didn't bother to tell Jeremy.

-----------------

He didn't need to tell the relatives, but it showed by his attitude towards them when they were trying to suggest that JB had killed everyone...

He didn't need to speak to anyone, other than those who were directly involved in the cover up - and DS "Stan" Jones, by the way, was not privy to the cover up, in the early stages of the investigation, which is why he comes across as being a pain in the butt, to DCI "Taff" Jones, and the others - however, he was later brought into the circle and told the truth about what took place...

The relatives became suspicious because they did not feel it was right, and so did DS "Stan" Jones, for different reasons:-

The relatives and DS Jones, became suspicious because there was a cover up...

He didn't need to, but there was nothing stopping him from doing so. Why would he not tell Jeremy and his relatives that he spoke to Sheila?

--------------------

That was a matter for him, but he did make notes in his own handwriting and he did copy crucial documentation from the original file, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances", and but for his death, he would have exposed what really did take place, rather than expose JB to the possibility, of being convicted for murders he could not, and did not commit...

His distant relatives are now ensuring that the truth will finally be told...

Like I said, he had nine months to ensure that Jeremy was not even brought to trial, and he had a month to ensure that Jeremy was not even arrested. There was no reason for him to wait for the trial.

Mike... why has it taken his distant relatives so long to attempt to clear Taff's name?  Who did they take the document to first... Arthur Negis?

How are they clearing Taff's name? If he did speak to Sheila, he's the one who kept that secret from Jeremy - that could have cleared Jeremy and yet Taff "forgot" to mention it to him?

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"Taff" didn't forget to mention it to JB, he never intended to say anything about the cover up to Jeremy...

[mike tesko]

New Evidence - Sheila "apologizes for everything" when speaking to police

In the very latest development linked to this case, police had evidence that Sheila was in contact with them, via the telephone interception, and she told DCI "Taff"Jones, that "she was sorry for everything she had done"...

Documents which contained this information was withheld, marked "not to be disclosed under any circumstances"...

Copies of the documents are being sent to the CCRC...

Mike

I recall that you mentioned the possibilty of a tape recording of conversations with Sheila in WHF. Has the this now been confirmed to you and if so is this also being submitted to the CCRC?

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Information has been received, and I am requesting confirmation from the source that this includes audio recordings of the crucial evidence?

I am assured it exists, its just that I have not yet been given access to it...