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Offline Jan

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #600 on: October 24, 2014, 03:03:PM »
Who was the 'one' person that you refer to? He had a falling out with two members of this forum and was banned due to threatening behaviour. I understand he was banned from the red forum for the same reason? And I am led to believe that he also had a falling out with the Campaign Team,though for a different reason. I do not know how relations are between himself and Jeremy. Does anybody else know?

I must admit I am not clear on the full history - but in his posts here he did seem polite and was met with no obvious rudeness that I could see - so he did seem to get on with most posters. It seemed that the ban from here came after NGB was drawn into an argument only because of his position on this forum?

I have heard he was banned from the other forum - but have not a clue what that was about.

in posts here he said he got on well with Jeremy and had a laugh with him. But I am assuming that has changed recently. If Jeremy thought he had been duped by him I can imagine he would "cut him off" so to speak because it must be very hard for him to know who he can trust .


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« Reply #601 on: October 24, 2014, 03:07:PM »
I must admit I am not clear on the full history - but in his posts here he did seem polite and was met with no obvious rudeness that I could see - so he did seem to get on with most posters. It seemed that the ban from here came after NGB was drawn into an argument only because of his position on this forum?

I have heard he was banned from the other forum - but have not a clue what that was about.

in posts here he said he got on well with Jeremy and had a laugh with him. But I am assuming that has changed recently. If Jeremy thought he had been duped by him I can imagine he would "cut him off" so to speak because it must be very hard for him to know who he can trust .


As can I. It would be a natural reaction on Jeremy's part. What I most emphatically DON'T believe is that he issued death threats OR commissioned anyone else to do it on his behalf.

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« Reply #602 on: October 24, 2014, 03:09:PM »
MD - seemed quite relaxed in March 2014

"Opinion is great, I accept it, but living with this case day and night as I have, and there are a few people on here who know what I've gone through, makes you take stock and realise the traumatic affect that still endures. I had no allegiance at the outset, I have no allegiance now, I have researched this entire case objectively. I get on well with Jeremy, we laugh and talk together, but then I laugh with Ronald DeFeo too, he admits he murdered his family, each year I get cards off the Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales, and serial killers such as Peter Sutcliffe - juxtaposition of morality or what?. In this case, me and Jeremy are two different people, I absolutely liked Stan Jones when I spoke to and interviewed him, doesn't make either Stan or Jeremy right in what they may or may not have done.

Jeremy is the only person on this planet who knows the truth, not the relatives, not the courts, not the media, and certainly not the red.  The evidence at court was crap, you know it, we all know it, however, that means nothing because a jury of Jeremy's peers, lay people who were not instructed correctly, believed it. Therefore it all becomes fact. 

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #603 on: October 24, 2014, 03:10:PM »
I must admit I am not clear on the full history - but in his posts here he did seem polite and was met with no obvious rudeness that I could see - so he did seem to get on with most posters. It seemed that the ban from here came after NGB was drawn into an argument only because of his position on this forum?

I have heard he was banned from the other forum - but have not a clue what that was about.

in posts here he said he got on well with Jeremy and had a laugh with him. But I am assuming that has changed recently. If Jeremy thought he had been duped by him I can imagine he would "cut him off" so to speak because it must be very hard for him to know who he can trust .

he allways seemd  like a perfectly reasonable guy when he was on here.

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« Reply #604 on: October 24, 2014, 03:11:PM »

As can I. It would be a natural reaction on Jeremy's part. What I most emphatically DON'T believe is that he issued death threats OR commissioned anyone else to do it on his behalf.

No I don't believe that either.


And I would think that if he was approached to do a book then he would be aware of the dangers of doing that , surely the author would have told him from the beginning he was going in with an open mind?

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« Reply #605 on: October 24, 2014, 03:13:PM »
But nug nug he did send threatening messages to NGB -why would he do that?

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« Reply #606 on: October 24, 2014, 03:17:PM »
bad day perhaps.

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« Reply #607 on: October 24, 2014, 03:19:PM »
If I remember at the time,wasn't MD's post " scrutinised " back then because it seemed out of character of him to have posted in such a manner,particularly when he was quite rude to NGB ?
I think a few were a bit baffled as to who the post actually came from. Whether it was authentic or not ?

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« Reply #608 on: October 24, 2014, 03:20:PM »
No I don't believe that either.


And I would think that if he was approached to do a book then he would be aware of the dangers of doing that , surely the author would have told him from the beginning he was going in with an open mind?



Jan, that's an interesting point that hadn't previously occurred to me. Jeremy must have been prepared to take a chance with every author who has ever approached him. I can't imagine ANY of them telling him they thought he was guilty to start off with so why would he issue death threats to this one author in particular?

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #609 on: October 24, 2014, 03:21:PM »
If I remember at the time,wasn't MD's post " scrutinised " back then because it seemed out of character of him to have posted in such a manner,particularly when he was quite rude to NGB ?
I think a few were a bit baffled as to who the post actually came from. Whether it was authentic or not ?

Lookout - you may be thinking of Harters rather than MD.


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« Reply #610 on: October 24, 2014, 03:22:PM »
But nug nug he did send threatening messages to NGB -why would he do that?


Boys and injured pride? ;)

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« Reply #611 on: October 24, 2014, 03:26:PM »
Lookout - you may be thinking of Harters rather than MD.





Maybe,ngb,but I seem to remember someone remarking,or querying as to whether MD's post was actually his or not.
I'm possibly mistaken. Wires crossed-----------again. :-[

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #612 on: October 24, 2014, 03:30:PM »
Hi Patti. I think that the result could have been different back in 86 if Jeremy had had a better defense team. Personally I think they were woefully inadequate.

You're probably right there Tyler.  ;D

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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #613 on: October 24, 2014, 03:31:PM »


Jan, that's an interesting point that hadn't previously occurred to me. Jeremy must have been prepared to take a chance with every author who has ever approached him. I can't imagine ANY of them telling him they thought he was guilty to start off with so why would he issue death threats to this one author in particular?


unless he was so confident that he would come to the conclusion that there was a MOJ ( which the author has indicated there was ) but did not think there was the additional risk of him then saying that he was still guilty? So therefore he was willing to be interviewed etc and work with him?


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Re: The Threat.
« Reply #614 on: October 24, 2014, 03:32:PM »

As can I. It would be a natural reaction on Jeremy's part. What I most emphatically DON'T believe is that he issued death threats OR commissioned anyone else to do it on his behalf.
Neither do I April. You are an intelligent person and have come to this conclusion. PH is an intelligent person also and surely cannot really believe that Jeremy had any involvement with the letter. So why then, approach the press with the story as opposed to taking it through the proper channels?