Surely The Timings Are Incorrect?

[No-Bits]

you would expect the police to act more quickly if you dail 999 but that dosent necessarily mean the will act more quickly.

I think we'd all agree that in an emergency, dialing 999 would be the most appropriate course of action for the swiftest possible response.

In this case, a 999 call would have removed PC West from the communication chain saving a few minutes at least.

More of a concern, is that Jeremy not only failed to dial 999, he also took about 15 minutes (or 25 minutes if you are going for the 3:36 time) to actually phone the police. So why would he complain about being on hold for 3 minutes? 

You've also got to fit in a call to Julie, either before or after calling the police, he's claimed both.

None of this makes sense, it stinks.

[guest7363]

you would expect the police to act more quickly if you dail 999 but that dosent necessarily mean the will act more quickly.

Look at it this way, in an emergency would you diall 999 for free or spend time looking up a police station number and pay for the call?  Which one would get help quicker a 999 call or 10 mins looking up a number?

[nugnug]

i think weather you call 999 or not really depends on what your expecting the police to do.

if you just want them to knock on the door and see if things are ok you might not dail 999.

what was he expecting from the police thats the qustion.

[guest7363]

i think weather you call 999 or not really depends on what your expecting the police to do.

if you just want them to knock on the door and see if things are ok you might not dail 999.

what was he expecting from the police thats the qustion.

So being woken at daft o'clock telling you someone's going crazy with a gun is just a polite knock on the door?

[nugnug]

well it was his own sister and his father hadent asked him to ring the police i doubt if he would of wanted the police to go in there all guns blazing.

if he just wanted them there as back up he might not dial 999

[guest7363]

well it was his own sister and his father hadent asked him to ring the police i doubt if he would of wanted the police to go in there all guns blazing.
if he just wanted them there as back up he might not dial 999

After a few seconds the phone went dead? Not registering yet?

[nugnug]

well if i was woken out of my sleep after a long days work with message like that to tell you the truth i dont what i would do i think it might take a while to sink i.

then id have to think of the best course of action should i phone the police or not phoning the police might make things worse.

but then me going down there might make things worse but then agian i cant just do nothing working out the best course of action off the top of my head would be hard.

[maggie]

well if i was woken out of my sleep after a long days work with message like that to tell you the truth i dont what i would do i think it might take a while to sink i.

then id have to think of the best course of action should i phone the police or not phoning the police might make things worse.

but then me going down there might make things worse but then agian i cant just do nothing working out the best course of action off the top of my head would be hard.

I agree nugs and even harder if your dad has always emphasised family is private and the police are busybodies.  If Nevill had said 'Sheila has got the gun, get over here pronto and dial 999 before you come' that would be very different,  nothing is ever clear cut in situations like this and hind sight is a wonderful thing.

[nugnug]

well its just someone going crazy with a gun its own sister which is very different.

because its a relative dong it you thinking about there safety as well.

[guest7363]

I agree nugs and even harder if your dad has always emphasised family is private and the police are busybodies.  If Nevill had said 'Sheila has got the gun, get over here pronto and dial 999 before you come' that would be very different,  nothing is ever clear cut in situations like this and hind sight is a wonderful thing.

Point taken Maggie but, the fact being Jeremy said his father sounded distressed, Sheila has gone crazy she has got a gun , the phone line has gone dead, no reply when trying to ring back and the time of the call still would not have made it a little more clear cut? I don't think any hind sight was needed.

[nugnug]

i wonder weather the first time this had happend.

[Alias]

i wonder weather the first time this had happend.

I think Jeremy would have talked about it if it had happened before - I mean with a gun; but there had been emergemcy episodes with Sheila before where Nevill was called - not police.
I think that Jeremy was thoroughly confused about what to do. I do think he called Julie before he called police, and he did it to get her advise. "Hi darling, everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
Julie snubbed him, and he made a compromise by calling the local police - afraid to make his father angry by calling police at all.

[nugnug]

when i think about i might be rather angry if i phoned my son and asked him to come down and then a load of coppers turned up.

[Jane]

I think Jeremy would have talked about it if it had happened before - I mean with a gun; but there had been emergemcy episodes with Sheila before where Nevill was called - not police.
I think that Jeremy was thoroughly confused about what to do. I do think he called Julie before he called police, and he did it to get her advise. "Hi darling, everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
Julie snubbed him, and he made a compromise by calling the local police - afraid to make his father angry by calling police at all.

Alias, do you not think that "Hi, darling, everything is going well (with me but?)....................." is a somewhat inappropriate thing to say having got her out of bed in the middle of the night? Why would she need to know all was well with him? Surely the important thing was what may be happening at the harm.

[lookout]

I think Jeremy would have talked about it if it had happened before - I mean with a gun; but there had been emergemcy episodes with Sheila before where Nevill was called - not police.
I think that Jeremy was thoroughly confused about what to do. I do think he called Julie before he called police, and he did it to get her advise. "Hi darling, everything is going well (with me, but) something is wrong at the farm."
Julie snubbed him, and he made a compromise by calling the local police - afraid to make his father angry by calling police at all.

Exactly.Selectively misinterpreted. Like most phrases that Jeremy was alleged to have said. Twisted to suit.