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Testimony's that are never really published/forgotten
« on: July 27, 2014, 11:04:AM »
Lets get some real statements on here from real people that knew Jeremy. We can all sit back and make assumptions..He was the killer, he was a psychopath, he was evil....Lets read some good reports from genuine people for a change.

1. A Work Colleague.


I worked with Jeremy many years ago and I got to know him very well through this job. To me he spoke about farming a lot and seemed to enjoy it and wanted to develop the way that the farm worked, he wanted to use new technology at the time to further the business. To be truthful I think this work was just light relief for him, never did I think that he took it seriously or preferred it to farming. He was never flash with money but was hardly ever short of it.
I spent time with him at his cottage in Goldhanger, he was the sort of person who always had time for me, and I visited White House Farm and met his family a couple of times. I also met Julie a few times but never understood why Jeremy was going with her as I

thought of her as a sly and moody woman. She seemed inadequate as well as insecure and the pair were badly suited in my view. Never did Jeremy come across as angry in my presence and never did he speak badly of any person especially his parents and always seemed very appreciative of what they had done for him.
I was reeling with shock from what had happened at White House Farm and none of it made sense. I came to question myself about whether I really knew Jeremy because of the things said about him by other people, my gut instincts were that he hadn’t committed the murders and the way I had felt about Julie always remained the same and was compounded by her media interviews. The reports in the press seemed so overwhelming at the time. People felt afraid to stand up for Jeremy fearing such association would blacken their character but I knew a number of people who held the same beliefs as myself but did nothing.

I didn’t contact Jeremy again until many years later, I found him welcoming and I enjoyed the same warmth of character in his letters. I feel regret that I turned my back for so many years and this testimony is my way of saying I’m sorry Jeremy I should have spoken for you sooner. I know you are innocent and always did.
 

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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 11:06:AM »
2. A friend

During the years I have known Jeremy I have found him to be open and reliable, ordinary in his manner. He is resilient and truthful, I believe he is innocent not just because of the growing evidence but because I have got to know him as a friend. I don’t believe that the man I know has the capability to have carried out such terrible crimes and I have seen too much evidence which supports his account that Sheila shot the family. I wanted to tell you a bit about the man I know and not the monster that has been built up over 25 years.

Despite the sadness that has befallen him Jeremy feels that he was lucky to have been adopted by Nevill and June Bamber. He grew up in a kind and loving family and enjoyed life on the farm. As the son of a farmer he enjoyed the adventure of playing on the farm with his dog which he loved and also learned the skill of farming from an early age. Jeremy loves growing things (not that he can) and even keeps up –to-date with things like ‘country file’ now. He has expressed a desire to return to farming – it is what he knows and loves although I don’t think he would wish to do it on a grand scale. The farm had no cattle it was only arable farming. He has recounted many happy and fun memories of his childhood on the farm with Sheila who was also adopted from different parents.

As a young man he went to Gresham College which I believe is a private college where the wealthy intelligent attend. Jeremy is very intelligent but he didn’t pursue a degree after college. He wanted to get back to real life and work on the farm. The Boutflours have presented Jeremy as young man who was some sort of delinquent middle class play boy. I think it was quite the opposite, although from a privileged back ground, he was a young man who was happy in long term relationships and he was definitely a ‘farmers boy’ who very much enjoyed that life style and wanted it to continue that way. Jeremy always had long term girlfriends and was able to form and maintain stable relationships with women. Jeremy is not bisexual or homosexual. Jeremy had homosexual friends such as Brett Collins, as much as you or I would today – the difference was that in 1985 if you had gay friends you were ‘branded’ as one of them and it was used in a negative way to represent Jeremy. Jeremy was a typical young man in his early twenties who kept up to date with fashion trends, but he never dressed up as Adam Ant as has been presented at times. In reality he was always smart and well presented. He did go into London to meet up with friends and he saw Sheila every couple of weeks he was friends with Colin Caffell and they got on well.

It has also been suggested that all of Jeremy’s supporters are women, again the idea is use to smear Jeremy, but he also has a lot of male campaigners. However, interestingly someone recently pointed out to me that if you look at Schappelle Corby on Face Book (who is currently serving time in a Bali prison but maintains innocence) you will see that the vast majority of her supporters are female. I think that supporters are often women because they are the ‘doers’ of this world and perhaps feel more compassionately for these causes than men do.

For someone who has been wronged so much by our justice system he is always positive and I have never found him to be bitter and twisted as one imagines he might be. I find him very gracious and respectful, sincere, resilient, loyal, reliable and candid. A number of his friends have known him since before he went to prison showing that he is able to maintain lasting relationships with people on the outside. If you met Jeremy in a cafe you would never know he had endured so much suffering nor been in prison for so long, he comes across as normal, bright and he has a kind smile, he is plainly spoken and has straightforwardness about him. He copes by looking to a brighter future where the truth is shown in a court of law, he has faith that he will win his freedom, I believe he can do nothing more than this as he knows, as well as I do that the truth will out in the end. He says and I quote ‘you take one day at a time and before you know it you have done 25 years’.

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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 11:09:AM »
3. Life time friend

I first knew Jeremy a long time ago, in fact many years before the tragedies at White House Farm. Jeremy is a kind person who helped me considerably during a period in my life that was very difficult. He always proved to be a shoulder to cry on all too often. I was shocked that he had been found guilty of murdering his family as this was not the man that I knew so well.

Over the years we drifted apart but managed to send the odd card or letter. But in later years we came into regular contact again and even my son and daughter, who are now fully grown write to Jeremy and have got to know him. I would trust Jeremy with my life and the lives of my children and grandchildren. Our lives move on, all of us, but sadly Jeremy’s has not, he has been unlawfully denied the right to relationships and family that we all have with our liberty. This is why I urge everyone who reads this to campaign and fight for Jeremy.

I long to see my friend released to the freedom he so richly deserves. I often feel that I owe him something for his loyalty to me during those years when we should have both been young and carefree but the burdens of life sometimes take over us. I didn’t need to see any evidence of Jeremy’s innocence, I knew him well and I always knew he couldn’t kill or raise his hand to anyone in violence. Jeremy always was, and always will be the perfect gentleman and the warmest of my friends.

I had always known that something wasn’t right about the evidence in his conviction and having met his relatives I could see they were greedy, grasping creatures and so it comes as no surprise that the so called ‘evidence’ they found has turned out to be fabricated which Peter Sutherst outlines in his interviews. I urge the people who were involved in this wrongdoing to come forward to the police, hand yourself in and tell the truth because you will be facing a long jail term for this crime and the courts will view you more leniently if you make the approach to put matters right.

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« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 11:15:AM »
Have you got names for these people Patti?

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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 11:17:AM »
Well done for that Patti. I was getting brassed off with all the venom being spewed about the guy,the same repetitive venom on a daily basis,as though he had no endearing qualities whatsoever.

This makes a refreshing change,but I doubt it'll last long enough until holes are picked once again.
I gather some of these character references didn't see daylight during the trial. Pity they didn't get an airing,as everyone in court were seemingly " out to get him ".

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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 11:29:AM »
Thank you Patti. It is good to see some testimonies from his friends and acquaintences for a change. Over the past few weeks he has been presented as the archetypal mass murderer and child killer such as novels are made of. No doubt you will get the usual hate posts and contradictions from those who never knew him personally?
I didn't know him personally, nor did I know any of the family as far as I can remember? Although I did work for Wagers for 25 years or so. But these testimonies are typical of those from who I do know who also knew Jeremy.

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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2014, 11:31:AM »
Well done for that Patti. I was getting brassed off with all the venom being spewed about the guy,the same repetitive venom on a daily basis,as though he had no endearing qualities whatsoever.

This makes a refreshing change,but I doubt it'll last long enough until holes are picked once again.
I gather some of these character references didn't see daylight during the trial. Pity they didn't get an airing,as everyone in court were seemingly " out to get him ".
I am sorry Lookout i really do try to look at it from both sides and i try to be honest, i have been told things from people close to jeremy  but i will not put on here without permission? Patti has put something on the forum, do i believe these testiment's, i think it is better with names. A holiday park owner i was close to every time he got a bad review he got staff to right good reviews. Well done though Patti my dear friend.

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Re: Testimony's that are never really published/forgotten
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2014, 11:31:AM »
Have you got names for these people Patti?

 I have got names. Justice. I can say that these are genuine.  ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2014, 11:33:AM »
I have got names. Justice. I can say that these are genuine.  ;D ;D ;D
Thank you Patti you do not have to post the names i believe you xx

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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2014, 11:34:AM »
Well done for that Patti. I was getting brassed off with all the venom being spewed about the guy,the same repetitive venom on a daily basis,as though he had no endearing qualities whatsoever.

This makes a refreshing change,but I doubt it'll last long enough until holes are picked once again.
I gather some of these character references didn't see daylight during the trial. Pity they didn't get an airing,as everyone in court were seemingly " out to get him ".

Lookout the best way to counter attack is to provide material that they have no power in pulling down...lol

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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2014, 11:37:AM »
Lookout the best way to counter attack is to provide material that they have no power in pulling down...lol

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Of course they will pull it down. Just wait and see.

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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2014, 11:38:AM »
Thank you Patti you do not have to post the names i believe you xx

Thank you Justice. If I thought they was not genuine I would never post them... ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2014, 11:38:AM »
Thank you Patti you do not have to post the names i believe you xx

the names are in the public domain anyway - and there are more testimonies like these.

I think it is also worth remembering the one from the estate manager who said the Neville was pleased with Jeremy .

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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2014, 11:39:AM »
Of course they will pull it down. Just wait and see.
Ha ha Grahame i'm not the best person with Patti she is too close so i leave well alone.

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2014, 11:40:AM »
Thank you Patti. It is good to see some testimonies from his friends and acquaintences for a change. Over the past few weeks he has been presented as the archetypal mass murderer and child killer such as novels are made of. No doubt you will get the usual hate posts and contradictions from those who never knew him personally?
I didn't know him personally, nor did I know any of the family as far as I can remember? Although I did work for Wagers for 25 years or so. But these testimonies are typical of those from who I do know who also knew Jeremy.

We shall see Grahame.....How did your birthday go?  ;D ;D ;D ;D