Thanks I actually ead the full statement yesterday. It is contained in Hartley's handy index.
All it notes is she told Grimster that in th epast she had contemplated suicide but we already know that since she told the dcotro that. This doesn't say when in the past she had contemplated such. SInce this was supposed 30 March it was prior to her second course of treatment that she was referring to having contemplated it.
The claim was that she attempted suicide but obviously that claim is not supportable by there or any other evidence that has been presented.
So again what we have is her claiming she contemplated suicide (something many people do at some point in their life I know people who have stated they contemplated it so by no means do simply peopel with mental problems think about it) and yet not acting on the thought even thought when under the influence of narcotics and not on Haldol.
If she didn't act upon it then at her worst hour one would not expect her to do so when successfully being treated on Haldol and thus her delusions were at bay.
Her doctor would be in the best posiiton to assess what risk she presented and he saw her as no threat to actually follow through and kill herself or harm others.
People want to second guess him without any bsais just basically saying well she contemplated suicide so that means she killed herself. To second guess him requires proof she did kill herself not jsut saying well she contemplated suicide so she killed herself.
Worse nothing fits the claim she was a danger to others. It was claimed that she stated people are evil and must all die but that seems to have been another exaggeration.
People who commit suicide who kill dependents do so because they are responsible for the care of the dependents and with the dependents dead they no longer have an excuse to not kill themselves. They can no longer rationalize well I have to be alive to care for my dependents. So in a way it is a step to give them nothing to live for. Most of the time women who do this only kill their kids, but on occasion others they are responsible for like parents who are invalids. Men have a tendency to take their souses as well either thinking the spouse can't make it without them and is a helpless dependent as well or to make sure the spouse never has a chance to meet someone else.
Sheila's parents were certianly not dependents. She had no reaosn to decide to kill her parents as well as her kids. If she had decided just ordinary suicide then she would have taken her kids and then own life not have involved her parents. She had the kids ever other day and could have stabbed them or killed them in some manner other than a gun. Even at WHF with a gun she could have simply killed them and then herself no need to involve her parents though.
Since killing her parents too does not fit the paradigm that is why the idea of her having delusions about them was floated as a way to try to acocunt for her killing them. But that would not acocunt for her killing herself and her kids. Basically we are treated to 2 different paradigms. She planned to kill herself an dher kids but before that she had delusions about her parents and killed them.
You don't even see that kind of thing in untreated peopel usually let alone someone on Haldol which there is no evidence at all was not controlling her delusions and which ther eis no reaosn at all would have suddenly stopped working.
If you want to say the unlikely happened then you need some strong proof to prove it happened. But there is no physical evidence at all to establish the unlikely happened. Instead we are told something even more unlikely happened. Not only did 2 different paradims result in Sheila killing everyone and herself worse she managed to kill everyone without getting any evidence of having fired a wepaon on her body and vdclothing and no blood evidence of any kind an dno wounds to herself of any kind despite the killer engaging in a struggle with Nevill so severe it broke the stick of the rifle exactly where a hand would have been holding the stock. Worse yet Sheila did the impossible and after killing herself while seated propped up against something:
Her nerves enabled her dead body to:
1) remove the moderator and go put it away
2) to lie down flat on the floor causing a pool of blood to form
3) to put the bible in such pool and then to open and close it while the blood was still wet
The Court of Appeals did not consider this a close case by any measure nor does anyone who is objective and reasonable.
The only thing less likely than the chance of Jeremy supporters providing evidence that establishes Jeremy is innocent and that Sheila did it, is the chance of someone being able to provide evidence that proves the existence of Hell.
