The 3 stages

[Jane]

'We now know Jeremy is innocent'. A bold claim from Bambergate. Has he been reading this discussion forum ? Together we have made some important discoveries
I DOUBT HE'D THANK YOU FOR SAYING THAT-

No one can explain what Sheila was doing when Neville phoned Jeremy.
ACTUALLY THEY HAVE BUT YOU'VE CHOSEN TO IGNORE IT

Jeremy asking for a police escort looks damning for him.
ONLY IF YOU WANT IT TO BE SO

Sheilas legs were pulled after the second shot.
SUSPECTED NOT PROVEN

Jeremys best option was to make up the phone call.
IF HE DID IT HIS BEST OPTION WAS TO SAY NOTHING

Jeremy was extremely evasive, arrogant and uncoperative in his police interviews.
SO?

Jeremy had an answering machine.
SO DO MANY OTHERS

Nevilles alledged last ten words did Jeremy no favours.
ALLEGED. YOU QUOTE THEM INCORRECTLY

There is a mountain of curious coincidences.
YOU'VE CERTAINLY MADE UP ONE OR TWO

There are a lot of reasons/facts why Neville would not phone Jeremy.
AND EQUALLY AS MANY WHY HE WOULD

There are lots of reasons/facts why Jeremy still protests his innocence.
WHY SHOULD AN INNOCENT PERSON NOT PROTEST THEIR INNOCENCE?

Mike Gradwell says it is a safe conviction.
WHO SAY'S HE'S RIGHT

Jeremy hated his parents. As testified.
SHOW ME SOMEONE WHO,AT SOME TIME,HASN'T

There are lots of reasons why Jeremy has failed to get released on a technicality.
PROBABLY

Alledged jilted women are just as likely to tell the truth.
OR LIE

It is inconclusive that Jeremy jilted Julie.
NOT FOR YOU TO DECIDE. IF JULIE FELT DUMPED SHE PROBABLY WAS UNLESS SHE WAS INTO THREESOMES

The 19 day 1986 trial was not unfair.
YOUR OPINION

Jeremy almost certainly phoned Julie before the police. And before Nevilles call
YOUR OPINION.

Taff Jones had no hard evidence of Jeremys innocence. He was taken off the case.
YOU HAVE NO PROOF

Julie was not forced to confess. The police had nothing on her.
SHE GOT IN FIRST BEFORE THEY STARTED LOOKING

Neville got a terrible beating.
YES

The relatives did not have the expertise to frame Jeremy.
THEY DIDN'T NEED IT. BRAINSTORMING WORKS MIRACLES

Julie did not have the confidence to frame Jeremy.
SHE DIDN'T NEED IT. BRAINSTORMING WORKS MIRACLES
 

[Adam]

That is what I was doing. Links to previous threads on here. Which relate to what a poster has posted and assists them.

[guest154]

Links would be fine, least then he could explain why he needs or wants to refer to a particular post. But he copies and pastes the same posts with no explanation.

Of course people repeat themselves but discussing the same subject is a little different to pasting the
same post time after time. He isn't breaking the rules but it is irritating and members have complained. Links might just be the answer - did you hear that Adam? Links! Not cut and pastes!! 

Links?  that's the point Caroline... he isn't allowed to post links. April edits out anytime he posts links.

[Adam]

Links?  that's the point Caroline... he isn't allowed to post links. April edits out anytime he posts links.

Yes 4 links were deleted today.  Jansus asked me a question and I tried to assist her.

[Jane]

Links?  that's the point Caroline... he isn't allowed to post links. April edits out anytime he posts links.

As Caroline has said, it is irritating. People have complained.

[guest154]

As Caroline has said, it is irritating. People have complained.

If you read her post she told him to post links and NOT cut and paste. Which is the opposite of you've been doing with his posts.

[Jane]

Yes 4 links were deleted today.  Jansus asked me a question and I tried to assist her.

Adam, IMO, you WEREN'T trying to assist. Alias is one of those who has frequently told you how irritated by your links she is. I don't believe there's a poster here who is UNAWARE of your numerous threads and as MOST think they're fiction rather than fact WHY would they wish to b e continually reminded of them?

[Jane]

If you read her post she told him to post links and NOT cut and paste. Which is the opposite of you've been doing with his posts.

As Caroline has said, it is irritating. People have complained.

[guest154]

Links would be fine, least then he could explain why he needs or wants to refer to a particular post. But he copies and pastes the same posts with no explanation.

Of course people repeat themselves but discussing the same subject is a little different to pasting the
same post time after time. He isn't breaking the rules but it is irritating and members have complained. Links might just be the answer - did you hear that Adam? Links! Not cut and pastes!! 

I don't think Caroline could be clearer, April. If you have a problem with links then take it up with her - stop making your own rules up.

"Links would be fine"
"Links might be the answer - Links not cut and pastes."

[Caroline]

If you read her post she told him to post links and NOT cut and paste. Which is the opposite of you've been doing with his posts.

We haven't discussed it yet, but we have had a lot of complaints and it gets frustrating. We're not always online at the same time - April is doing her best - you can't please everyone  BUT I think links are OK as long as he states why he wants to refer to the link and isn't claiming it to be a fact when it's just his opinion.

[Caroline]

So which of Barbara Wilson's statements was a lie?

She recently claimed to have seen the blood on the silencer in the Channel 5 docu - first time she's ever said that!

[guest154]

We haven't discussed it yet, but we have had a lot of complaints and it gets frustrating. We're not always online at the same time - April is doing her best - you can't please everyone  BUT I think links are OK as long as he states why he wants to refer to the link and isn't claiming it to be a fact when it's just his opinion.

April is a lone ranger. Issuing bans - then you say a warning should be given first. Forcing her home made rules on Adam. But personal attacks are ignored even when reported - even though she's online all the time.
Is it okay to call someone a gormelss twat? Because that post is on the forum, but that isn't modded. You're smart, Caroline - you know just as well as I do she mods who she dislikes and ignores everything else.

[Alias]

It was 'Susan Battetsby's' cheque book.

Anyway. When Julie approached the police, they knew nothing about it. Or 'Jeremy's' caravan break in.

Do you really think it makes Julie look better that it was Susan´s cheque book? She couldn´t even use her own, but talked her friend into using hers. I call that pretty cowardly and low.

[Caroline]

April is a lone ranger. Issuing bans - then you say a warning should be given first. Forcing her home made rules on Adam. But personal attacks are ignored even when reported - even though she's online all the time.
Is it okay to call someone a gormelss twat? Because that post is on the forum, but that isn't modded. You're smart, Caroline - you know just as well as I do she mods who she dislikes and ignores everything else.

I'm not aware of April having banned anyone? We have discussed his cut and pastes in the past because of the amount of complaints but not links  - As I said, I don't see a problem with links as long as he states what the link is for.

I don't know who called someone gormelss twat? But I'm sure April would never call anyone that. Everyone has 'some' bias (including me) and no matter how much you try and stay neutral, it will influence  what you do/say to some degree. However, I don't agree that April doesn't like Adam, she is just frustrated by the repetitiveness and the complaints in that respect. Have to admit, I felt the same way not so long ago but haven't be around much these past few weeks due to other commitments.

We'll discus it tomorrow and clarify the situation - but I see no problem with links as ling as there is some clarification to go with it.

 

[Caroline]

Do you really think it makes Julie look better that it was Susan´s cheque book? She couldn´t even use her own, but talked her friend into using hers. I call that pretty cowardly and low.

I think it's worse that it was SB's cheque book!