How Did Jeremy Shoot Sheila?

[grahameb]

All these little incidentals such as the bike have all been done to death simply because there's absolutely nothing to go on. This is why there's been so much of a hoo-ha over the silencer,scratched Aga ( which was done a month later ! ) the wetsuit,file,windows,etc,etc.
All these have nothing whatsoever to do with what ACTUALLY happened inside the confines of the farmhouse that night between June,Neville and Sheila.

Did you mean that to be a pun lookout?

[Jan]

Scipio asked how do we know he did not panic

this is a man that apparently knew the order of the murders  primed the whole scene meticulously - according to some even made Sheilas bed to look as if she had laid on top of it , disconnected phones , hid phones , disposed of his clothes and shoes - stayed PERFECTLY calm even though he had killed all of his family and can also fool lie detector tests

And yet did not think about the silencer and did not commit the final murder properly . He certainly is an enigma.

[Alias]

Scipio asked how do we know he did not panic

this is a man that apparently knew the order of the murders  primed the whole scene meticulously - according to some even made Sheilas bed to look as if she had laid on top of it , disconnected phones , hid phones , disposed of his clothes and shoes - stayed PERFECTLY calm even though he had killed all of his family and can also fool lie detector tests

And yet did not think about the silencer and did not commit the final murder properly . He certainly is an enigma.

It is all this bending, twisting and contradictions that get to me every time. I TRY to imagine Jeremy having done it, but frankly hit a wall every time - especially when it comes to the shooting of Sheila; that is where the theories get really outlandish.

[Jan]

But of course Sheila would not have had to do all that .

I have still seen nothing that PROVES she did not do it.

[grahameb]

It is all this bending, twisting and contradictions that get to me every time. I TRY to imagine Jeremy having done it, but frankly hit a wall every time - especially when it comes to the shooting of Sheila; that is where the theories get really outlandish.

What convinces me he didn't do it is the fact that he wasn't all hyped up when he met the police. With the affects of all the adrenalin pumping through his veins he would have been shaking like a leaf. He would not have been able to control it.

[Jan]

What convinces me he didn't do it is the fact that he wasn't all hyped up when he met the police. With the affects of all the adrenalin pumping through his veins he would have been shaking like a leaf. He would not have been able to control it.

yes I agree - I don't think even the most calculating of killers could have carried that off within a very short time of the murders , that's why if he was guilty I think he would just have let them discover the bodies in the morning then he would not have to sat in a car with them or stood outside with them .

[lookout]

Did you mean that to be a pun lookout?

  I've just noticed that. Maybe I should have included the toilet.

[susan]

Alias I agree with you I cannot figure out how Jeremy could have shot Sheila especially the two shots.  If Jeremy did commit the murders the only explanation I can come up with he took over Sheila's mind and brainwashed her into shooting herself or he had help and somebody held her

[Alias]

Alias I agree with you I cannot figure out how Jeremy could have shot Sheila especially the two shots.  If Jeremy did commit the murders the only explanation I can come up with her took over Sheila's mind and brainwashed her into shooting herself or he had help and somebody held her

One of the reasons I am willing to accept that Jeemy is guilty = if he had an accomplice. Doesn´t explain the folly of "staging" a suicide with two shots though.
Since an accomplice is not on the table, so to speak, my conclusion is: Jeremy didn´t do it.

[susan]

Alias have you ever thought that because of Sheila's illness and I think she was very confused about the devil and God etc could Jeremy have talked her into doing it they were I believe out walking together in the afternoon and we do not know what ideas he put in her head I am just throwing things around here as I have not got a clue who did what and how maybe he was at the farm that night but did not take an active part in the shootings just giving out orders.  God hope I don't sound like Adam

[lookout]

 What I have noticed is that there have been no reports/news on any change in Jeremys' behaviour over the years.
 He's seemingly remained focussed and determined to clear his name,,and for that he's to be admired.

[Alias]

Alias have you ever thought that because of Sheila's illness and I think she was very confused about the devil and God etc could Jeremy have talked her into doing it they were I believe out walking together in the afternoon and we do not know what ideas he put in her head I am just throwing things around here as I have not got a clue who did what and how maybe he was at the farm that night but did not take an active part in the shootings just giving out orders.  God hope I don't sound like Adam

Of course I wouldn´t know, I just don´t find it likely! Weren´t the twins with Sheila BTW, and they were "visiting" Jeremy on the tractor - not exactly a walk together?

[scipio_usmc]

It is all this bending, twisting and contradictions that get to me every time. I TRY to imagine Jeremy having done it, but frankly hit a wall every time - especially when it comes to the shooting of Sheila; that is where the theories get really outlandish.

The bending is done by you and other Jeremy supporters.

The contradicitons are likewise from you.

The outlandish claims are also from you.

The average reaosnable perosn considers Jeremy's claims that Nevill woudl call him instead of arming himself, claling police or trying to disarm Sheila outlandish.  The average reasonable person considers the claim that the lab personnel, family, police and Julie all got together to plant evidence, emilimate evidence and frame Jeremy outlandish. 

Jeremy sticking a gun to her to try to mimick suicide is far more believable and credible than the vast conspiracy you allege.

You have a backwards view of what is credible and what is outlandish much like 911 conspiracy theorists have a very warped view.





 

[susan]

Alias I guess you are right it is just that I am convinced if Jeremy was involved in the murders Sheila or another person was involved with him

[Alias]

Good Lord, can´t you utter one sentence without being nasty?

I don´t accept your scenario, it is faulty and does not explain how Sheila was shot. Sheila sitting on the floor, Jeremy crouching down in an odd position firing from the hip in an upwards shot does not cut it for e. It didn´t happen that way. It doesn´t help calling me names, I am just not buying what you claim.