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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #90 on: June 17, 2014, 12:45:PM »
Blisters - from one attack - really?

This comment and the one about the nails is suppostion and nothing more.

Anne had a good look at Jeremy  for any sign of injury and her eagles eyes spotted nothing.

Anne mentioned his dilated pupils, she had been studying him, so you are right. Also Julie, who shared a bed with him, would have noticed any bruises and reported them.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #91 on: June 17, 2014, 01:06:PM »
your right id never thought of that before.

mugford should really of mentioned that.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #92 on: June 17, 2014, 02:26:PM »
Blisters - from one attack - really?

This comment and the one about the nails is suppostion and nothing more.

Anne had a good look at Jeremy  for any sign of injury and her eagles eyes spotted nothing.
I've noticed that girls with long nails, even working girls like nurses hold things differently than men do automatically so as not to break their nails. Men who say things like, "A woman with long nails wouldn't be able to do that" really do not know anything about women.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #93 on: June 17, 2014, 03:00:PM »
I've noticed that girls with long nails, even working girls like nurses hold things differently than men do automatically so as not to break their nails. Men who say things like, "A woman with long nails wouldn't be able to do that" really do not know anything about women.





I've always had long nails,,and even now I can still open boxes/parcels,using them to pierce sellotape or other tape wrapping. They've never hindered me at all. When you're used to having them,it's no different than if you hadn't,,it still doesn't hamper you,and I haven't scratched anyone yet,,so Sheila wouldn't have been handicapped when it came to loading a rifle.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #94 on: June 17, 2014, 03:16:PM »




I've always had long nails,,and even now I can still open boxes/parcels,using them to pierce sellotape or other tape wrapping. They've never hindered me at all. When you're used to having them,it's no different than if you hadn't,,it still doesn't hamper you,and I haven't scratched anyone yet,,so Sheila wouldn't have been handicapped when it came to loading a rifle.
I've even seen girls handle guns with long nails. Nay problem.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #95 on: June 17, 2014, 03:44:PM »
You wouldn´t use your fingernails if you were gripping something so thin sized as a rifle; that would take the power out of your grip.
I don´t have a rifle, but just tried it with a broom (which is a little thicker than a rifle) - I don´t use the nails at all. My fingernails are about the same length as what I can see on Sheila.

First of all she would have a hard time holding the rifle from the barrel and wielding it that way. The mechanism is the heavy part the barrel weighs little so she woudl have a hard time wielding it and keeping it from falling from her hands.  If she were tightly gripping the barrel her nails would have to be inside her fists.  Women break nails punching someone with their nail inside their fist let alone while holding a heavy object tighly. Inside a fist doesn't offer full protection and can even end up scratching the hands.

At any rate, the butt of the rifle was used to smash Nevill's head in.  Not the sides of the stock (which would have left different damage to the stock including it likely being loose and hanging off the rifle) but the butt- the back of the stock. The back of the rifle hit Nevill this forced the narrow part of the stock to strike the metal of the rifle.  This caused part of the stock that hit the metal to split. To accomplish such the rifle would be held by the grip and one hand around the narrow portion of the stock.  Her hand would have been where the stock broke so would have been gashed unless she had gloves on.  In the meantime her nails would not be inside her hands because the grip and stock are not as narrow as a broom.



 
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #96 on: June 17, 2014, 06:03:PM »
I've noticed that girls with long nails, even working girls like nurses hold things differently than men do automatically so as not to break their nails. Men who say things like, "A woman with long nails wouldn't be able to do that" really do not know anything about women.
dont suppose you watch goggle box? there is a lady on there who according to this logic would not even be able to visit the ladies let alone do anything else :)

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #97 on: June 17, 2014, 06:21:PM »
I've even seen girls handle guns with long nails. Nay problem.

You have seen them batter someone with a gun because that is the issue, not firing a gun.  The issue is to batter someone and not break their nails and not get cut when the pice of stock broke off near where her hand would have been.

She also would have had to taken care not to break a nail as she loaded the magazine.

She was supposedly in a wild frenzy not acting in a careful considered manner like the girls you mention so that is another issue.
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #98 on: June 17, 2014, 11:16:PM »
 I'm damn sure that if a woman meant business while pointing a rifle at someone in a threatening manner that she wouldn't be worrying about her nails.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #99 on: June 17, 2014, 11:42:PM »
I'm damn sure that if a woman meant business while pointing a rifle at someone in a threatening manner that she wouldn't be worrying about her nails.

The issue is that she didn't damage her nails or hands but would have if she had been the one who bludgeoned Nevill with the rifle and had her hand on the rifle stock when it broke.  SHe would not have been wearing gloves or in your words worrying about protecting her nails so would have not taken precautions that Jeremy would have to protect his hands.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #100 on: June 18, 2014, 07:12:AM »
The issue is that she didn't damage her nails or hands but would have if she had been the one who bludgeoned Nevill with the rifle and had her hand on the rifle stock when it broke.  SHe would not have been wearing gloves or in your words worrying about protecting her nails so would have not taken precautions that Jeremy would have to protect his hands.




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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #101 on: June 18, 2014, 08:36:AM »
I still hold that during those hours that the cops waited Sheila had time to clean herself up and paint her nails. It is the natural thing to do for a womam who is intent on committing suicide. My father inlaw who was in the Thames River Police had seen it many times when he recovered the bodies of women from the river.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #102 on: June 18, 2014, 04:33:PM »
and that scenrio she had plenty of time to do anything she wanted.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #103 on: June 18, 2014, 05:38:PM »
I still hold that during those hours that the cops waited Sheila had time to clean herself up and paint her nails. It is the natural thing to do for a womam who is intent on committing suicide. My father inlaw who was in the Thames River Police had seen it many times when he recovered the bodies of women from the river.





That's very true Grahame. For some unknown reason,,some of them like to look their best ?

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #104 on: June 18, 2014, 05:44:PM »
 Mind you,saying that,,not that I was attempting suicide or anything,,but I woke up one morning a couple of years ago,,with a " rapid heartbeat " do,,and I know time is of the essence to get to hospital,,but I still risked/struggled having a shower and putting on my good clothes ? I could literally have had either a stroke or a heart attack,,but I had to be clean and looking my best. Women,eh ?