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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2014, 07:27:PM »
 This is why I wouldn't mind hearing those tapes,nugs. Until then,,we know nothing,and it's wrong for the PII/EP to hang on to them.
It proves to me that the case has been cobbled together if they've got something to hide.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2014, 07:28:PM »
he how could he scare a unit of heavly armed policeman with a tale thats ridiclus.

there own eyes and ears would tell them there was no threat. whatever he said.
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2014, 07:30:PM »
Because of Jeremy:

"Having walked to the house from the lane there was further conversation. The appellant told the police that Sheila Caffell could use a gun. He said they had gone target shooting together and she had used all the guns in the house before. In the light of what they were told the uniformed officers requested armed assistance before any attempt to search the house was made. The appellant dictated a list of the firearms kept at the house. He told the police that he had loaded the .22 automatic rifle the previous night because he thought he had heard rabbits outside. He said he had left the gun on the kitchen table with a full magazine and a box of ammunition nearby. Those who saw the appellant at the scene at that time described him as remarkably calm. At some stage during their conversations that morning PC Myall and the appellant spoke about motor cars. The appellant said that the Osea Road Caravan Site company, "would be able to stand him a Porsche" car at some point during the year."

Jeremy intentionally scared them with lies about her weapon proficiency and how well armed she was.

Some armed police arrived at 5 but the majority did not arrive until 7AM

They used a megaphone around 5:20 to try to negotiate assuming it could be a hostage situation but received no response.  They periodically continued with calls to the house from the megaphone but never got a response.

They didn't want to put officers or potentially hostages in danger so wanted to wait to enter until it was totally light so they could see inside the rooms as they went room to room.  They also wanted enough officers to be able to cover all sides of the house so a potential gunman could not escape. 

In the US all officers are armed so every cop on the scene could have protected the outside perimeter but not so with the UK police present.
You have cloth ears haven't you dear boy. I SAID that it was and is police practice in all hostage situations. Jeremy was just repeating what his father had told him over the phone. Your theory is just bullshit. You can write anything you like to your own satisfaction. But apparently not everyone agrees with you. Why don't they agree with you, you might ask. "because in my own mind these things are quite logical and factual". Well surprise surprise only your own sheep follow you and agree with you. But most here just see through all your bullshit as just another fairy tale.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2014, 07:32:PM »
You have cloth ears haven't you dear boy. I SAID that it was and is police practice in all hostage situations. Jeremy was just repeating what his father had told him over the phone. Your theory is just bullshit. You can write anything you like to your own satisfaction. But apparently not everyone agrees with you. Why don't they agree with you, you might ask. "because in my own mind these things are quite logical and factual". Well surprise surprise only your own sheep follow you and agree with you. But most here just see through all your bullshit as just another fairy tale.

You are becoming like a child again.

You should read your own claims, BS is all you spew because you irraitionaly want to pretend Jeremy is innocent.

My post is fully accurate not BS.


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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2014, 07:33:PM »
he how could he scare a unit of heavly armed policeman with a tale thats ridiclus.
I agree with you nugnug. All but Bewes that is, who pissed his pants when he saw the figure in the window. Went straight to the radio car and called for the armed response team. According to Jeremy he became the laughing stock of the station. ;D

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #20 on: June 13, 2014, 07:35:PM »
 Gawd,,you're one nasty piece of work !! There's no need whatsoever for the way you speak to us !

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #21 on: June 13, 2014, 07:36:PM »
Gawd,,you're one nasty piece of work !! There's no need whatsoever for the way you speak to us !

He´s a real charmer, isn´t he!  8)

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« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2014, 07:39:PM »
I agree with you nugnug. All but Bewes that is, who pissed his pants when he saw the figure in the window. Went straight to the radio car and called for the armed response team. According to Jeremy he became the laughing stock of the station. ;D

well they dident call armed response team straight away did they

and if they had belived a tale like that they would of done.

and if theres no sighn of life at all at anytime durring the siege if you can callit that.

then they wouldent of bothered calling one.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #23 on: June 13, 2014, 07:44:PM »
I agree with you nugnug. All but Bewes that is, who pissed his pants when he saw the figure in the window. Went straight to the radio car and called for the armed response team. According to Jeremy he became the laughing stock of the station. ;D




I wouldn't mind,,Bewes didn't linger long enogh to notice if it was a figure or not-----------he was gone,as if his arse was on fire.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #24 on: June 13, 2014, 07:45:PM »
You are becoming like a child again.

You should read your own claims, BS is all you spew because you irraitionaly want to pretend Jeremy is innocent.

My post is fully accurate not BS.


It's about cause and effect.  YOU seem to be causing a certain effect in others which they are reacting to it. Whether or not your post is accurate as opposed to BS is down to how others see it.

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« Reply #25 on: June 13, 2014, 07:55:PM »

It's about cause and effect.  YOU seem to be causing a certain effect in others which they are reacting to it. Whether or not your post is accurate as opposed to BS is down to how others see it.

That is because Jeremy supporters hate to have it pointed out how Jeremy lied. Anytime his lies about Sheila having used all the guns in the house is brought up or other lies or evidence that proves his guilt is brought his supporters fall apart because they don't want to admit he is guilty.

There are no rational reasons ever put forth by his supporters for insisting he is innocent.  It always boils down to wild tales about police framing him or the like- at the end of the day people want to believe he is innocent and will try any excuse in the world to try to pretend it.

They don't want me reminding them of all the evidence they are ignoring, they are trying to forget it and pretend that he is innocent.  Ignorance is bliss.

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #26 on: June 13, 2014, 07:58:PM »
or maybe we just dont treat the uncorroborated word of a policeman as fact.

im a big tough armed police officer but he told me some scary tales and i shit myself hardly credible really is it.

i mean its not like an armed unit would never of been in that situaion before
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #27 on: June 13, 2014, 08:01:PM »
You are becoming like a child again.

You should read your own claims, BS is all you spew because you irraitionaly want to pretend Jeremy is innocent.

My post is fully accurate not BS.
Hello charlie here come the insults again. Now where have I heard that term before? ::) Indeed it is you who is spewing all the bullshit matey. You appear to have the affliction of writers Diarrhea
Incidentally all your stuff is not all facts. It is your own ideas as to what happened attached to a few facts. The rest is just shit.




























 
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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2014, 08:04:PM »
That is because Jeremy supporters hate to have it pointed out how Jeremy lied. Anytime his lies about Sheila having used all the guns in the house is brought up or other lies or evidence that proves his guilt is brought his supporters fall apart because they don't want to admit he is guilty.

There are no rational reasons ever put forth by his supporters for insisting he is innocent.  It always boils down to wild tales about police framing him or the like- at the end of the day people want to believe he is innocent and will try any excuse in the world to try to pretend it.

They don't want me reminding them of all the evidence they are ignoring, they are trying to forget it and pretend that he is innocent.  Ignorance is bliss.








It was a covert psychological murder.   NOTHING TO DO WITH JEREMY ! I KNOW I'M RIGHT !!

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Re: why dident they go in.
« Reply #29 on: June 13, 2014, 08:19:PM »
That is because Jeremy supporters hate to have it pointed out how Jeremy lied. Anytime his lies about Sheila having used all the guns in the house is brought up or other lies or evidence that proves his guilt is brought his supporters fall apart because they don't want to admit he is guilty.

There are no rational reasons ever put forth by his supporters for insisting he is innocent.  It always boils down to wild tales about police framing him or the like- at the end of the day people want to believe he is innocent and will try any excuse in the world to try to pretend it.

They don't want me reminding them of all the evidence they are ignoring, they are trying to forget it and pretend that he is innocent.  Ignorance is bliss.


Well now, Mr Prosecutor. what can I possibly say to that ? Oh yes! Thus far you've made a pretty good fist of embellishing everything you say to make it look as if you know what you're talking about. It didn't dawn on me until I'd walked around the village where he lived, took a long look at his cottage, and followed part of  the route to the sea wall, that you hadn't got a clue what you were talking about, but BOY can you give a good impression that you know it all.  As it has already been told you by others, the ONE thing you have going for you is that you shout loudly and cover yourself in glory but as yet it's only ever been your opinion. Is there a single point you've made which can be proved or ARE you doing a clever job of concealing BS in your lengthy posts.