As a result of Jeremy's call to the police at 3:36am (3:26am)?

[mike tesko]

CD is chelmsford - where west was
HQIR Is HQ information room where Bonnett was (and is clearly stated in his testimony
CW is cooperating witness (bamber)

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I am sorry, but it clearly states that PC west (see 3;36am log) and Malcolm Bonnet (see 3:26am log) were both stationed at CD - look at the logs which are posted, and tell me where exactly does it state that Malcolm Bonnet was stationed at HQIR?

More to the pioint, where is / was the HQIR, in relation to CD?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

here we go

[mike tesko]

Since, PC West, and Malcolm Bonnet, were both located at CD, we need to find out, who was stationed or located at CW, and HQIR...

Read Bonnet's testimony, he was at HQIR - whilst west was at Chelmsford

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Your point being, that CD is where?

[mike tesko]

here we go

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Where is police head quarters situated, or located?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

[mike tesko]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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Oh, but it does...

You see according to PC West, the clock that he was relying upon was ten minutes fast, and if Bonnet was relying upon a different clock that told the accurate time, why is Bonnet recording that CA5 was dispatched to the scene at 3:36am, if by a reliance upon PC Wests log (3:36am) CA5 was dispatched to the scene as a result of JB's call to the police, which by a reliance to the ten minute fast clock in the control room, took place at 3:26am?

Why is PC west suggesting that JB's call took place at 3:26am, and CA5 was dispatched as a result of it, yet Bonnet is suggesting that CA5 was not dispatched until 3:36am? Since there is no evidence or information contained in the Bonnet log, that he recorded anything at all that was told to him by PC West. or vice versa?

[mike tesko]

In my opinion, CW is not a reference to JB, since it clearly states in PC Wests log (3:36am), that Informant was instructed to attend the scene...

[Kaldin]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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Oh, but it does...

You see according to PC West, the clock that he was relying upon was ten minutes fast, and if Bonnet was relying upon a different clock that told the accurate time, why is Bonnet recording that CA5 was dispatched to the scene at 3:36am, if by a reliance upon PC Wests log (3:36am) CA5 was dispatched to the scene as a result of JB's call to the police, which by a reliance to the ten minute fast clock in the control room, took place at 3:26am?

Why is PC west suggesting that JB's call took place at 3:26am, and CA5 was dispatched as a result of it, yet Bonnet is suggesting that CA5 was not dispatched until 3:36am? Since there is no evidence or information contained in the Bonnet log, that he recorded anything at all that was told to him by PC West. or vice versa?

PC West would hardly dispatch a police car the same minute as he received a call, especially as he had to find out what had happened, take down a name, address, and phone number, and inform Malcolm Bonnet.

[mike tesko]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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Oh, but it does...

You see according to PC West, the clock that he was relying upon was ten minutes fast, and if Bonnet was relying upon a different clock that told the accurate time, why is Bonnet recording that CA5 was dispatched to the scene at 3:36am, if by a reliance upon PC Wests log (3:36am) CA5 was dispatched to the scene as a result of JB's call to the police, which by a reliance to the ten minute fast clock in the control room, took place at 3:26am?

Why is PC west suggesting that JB's call took place at 3:26am, and CA5 was dispatched as a result of it, yet Bonnet is suggesting that CA5 was not dispatched until 3:36am? Since there is no evidence or information contained in the Bonnet log, that he recorded anything at all that was told to him by PC West. or vice versa?

PC West would hardly dispatch a police car the same minute as he received a call, especially as he had to find out what had happened, take down a name, address, and phone number, and inform Malcolm Bonnet.

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welcome back - first of all nobody is suggesting that he did - but what I want to know from you and others is what time are you saying that CA5 was dispatched to the scene, 3:26am, or 3:36am?

[TheBrilliantMistake]

PC West logs 3.36 (wrongly, it should be 3.26)
He calls Bonnett and discusses the situation.
Bonnett despatches CA5 at 3.35 and tells West "I've sent the car to the house, tell Bamber to meet the car at the house"
West writes "CA5 sent - CW informed"

Bob is your uncle!

[mike tesko]

PC West logs 3.36 (wrongly, it should be 3.26)
He calls Bonnett and discusses the situation.
Bonnett despatches CA5 at 3.35 and tells West "I've sent the car to the house, tell Bamber to meet the car at the house"
West writes "CA5 sent - CW informed"

Bob is your uncle!

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But there is a problem, that you appear to be overlooking...

[Kaldin]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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Oh, but it does...

You see according to PC West, the clock that he was relying upon was ten minutes fast, and if Bonnet was relying upon a different clock that told the accurate time, why is Bonnet recording that CA5 was dispatched to the scene at 3:36am, if by a reliance upon PC Wests log (3:36am) CA5 was dispatched to the scene as a result of JB's call to the police, which by a reliance to the ten minute fast clock in the control room, took place at 3:26am?

Why is PC west suggesting that JB's call took place at 3:26am, and CA5 was dispatched as a result of it, yet Bonnet is suggesting that CA5 was not dispatched until 3:36am? Since there is no evidence or information contained in the Bonnet log, that he recorded anything at all that was told to him by PC West. or vice versa?

PC West would hardly dispatch a police car the same minute as he received a call, especially as he had to find out what had happened, take down a name, address, and phone number, and inform Malcolm Bonnet.

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welcome back - first of all nobody is suggesting that he did - but what I want to know from you and others is what time are you saying that CA5 was dispatched to the scene, 3:26am, or 3:36am?

3.36.

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Ann Eaton claimed Jeremy was kept on the line for 11 minutes (but let's say a fair while)

So Jeremy calls West at 2.26
West jots it down, and keeps him on the line
West calls Bonnett and discusses
Bonnett tries to to contact the cars, works out who is best place to attend, and relays the same info again to the CA5 (about the incident)
Bonnett says to West "ok, everything is good to go"
West tells Bamber

Total duration - 5-10 mins (we really don't know for sure).

[mike tesko]

The physical locations aren't really important, the issue is that this was done over the phone, one department to another. Might have been 3 miles away, or simply 'upstairs' - doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

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Oh, but it does...

You see according to PC West, the clock that he was relying upon was ten minutes fast, and if Bonnet was relying upon a different clock that told the accurate time, why is Bonnet recording that CA5 was dispatched to the scene at 3:36am, if by a reliance upon PC Wests log (3:36am) CA5 was dispatched to the scene as a result of JB's call to the police, which by a reliance to the ten minute fast clock in the control room, took place at 3:26am?

Why is PC west suggesting that JB's call took place at 3:26am, and CA5 was dispatched as a result of it, yet Bonnet is suggesting that CA5 was not dispatched until 3:36am? Since there is no evidence or information contained in the Bonnet log, that he recorded anything at all that was told to him by PC West. or vice versa?

PC West would hardly dispatch a police car the same minute as he received a call, especially as he had to find out what had happened, take down a name, address, and phone number, and inform Malcolm Bonnet.

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welcome back - first of all nobody is suggesting that he did - but what I want to know from you and others is what time are you saying that CA5 was dispatched to the scene, 3:26am, or 3:36am?

3.36.

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I thought you would say that...

I have already been down that road myself, trying to fathom out the sequence of events, long before this forum was set up, with a view to discussing such issues...

But there is a significant problem...

[TheBrilliantMistake]

Tell us the problem