The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[lookout]

They probably didn´t even know what gay was about and thought, what a polite, nice looking young man! 
I don´t know how June and Nevill perceived Brett! Perhaps they liked him and disliked Julie (we know that), and that made Julie furiously jealous of Brett.
I have never seen it mentioned anywhere that they disliked Brett.

To be honest,,I think that the fact that Jeremy was tagging on to Brett Collins was that his relationship with Julie was wearing thin,,so Collins came in handy as an excuse to get out of seeing her less often.
June was probably relieved to see a different face than JM's,,so would have welcomed him to the fold.Whether either parent knew Collins was gay,,I wouldn't know. They'd have soon heard from all the gossipers,,RWB especially.I'm surprised he didn't tell Collins to wear a bell round his neck,,he was so incensed.   

JM just came in handy at weekends.
 Well you don't look at the mantelpiece when you're poking the fire,do you ?

[Jane]

Neither have I Alias but again although called a 'harlot' by June we know Julie spent time at the farm and read bedtime stories to the twins but maybe she was and felt tolerated as opposed to Brett who may have been obviously liked. There's little doubt Julie was jealous of Brett.

Maggie, that Julie read bedtime stories to the twins COULD translate that she did on ONE occasion. Julie was with Jeremy for 20 months? Sheila and presumably the twins hadn't been to the farm for the best part of a year. Where and when did these bedtime stories happen or is this just one more sweeping statement?

[maggie]

Maggie, that Julie read bedtime stories to the twins COULD translate that she did on ONE occasion. Julie was with Jeremy for 20 months? Sheila and presumably the twins hadn't been to the farm for the best part of a year. Where and when did these bedtime stories happen or is this just one more sweeping statement?

That's true I suppose April but she 'claimed' to have been able to tell the twins apart? ?

[lookout]

More like a fairy story,April.

[Alias]

Could Jeremy and Julie have visited Sheila in her flat in London from time to time. They could also have met there.

Different subject. Colin mentions on that page Caroline posted that he was thinking about "that party" - and Jeremy supposedly having done something bad - what was it? I haven´t read the book.
Didn´t Jeremy drive Sheila home from that party because she wasn´t feeling good? That sounds like a nice thing to do, but Colin is talking about the party as if Jeremy did something awful.

[Jane]

That's true I suppose April but she 'claimed' to have been able to tell the twins apart? ?

Who was there to say she couldn't?

[maggie]

Who was there to say she couldn't?

Obviously no one but bit odd behaviour to lie about it?

[Jane]

Could Jeremy and Julie have visited Sheila in her flat in London from time to time. They could also have met there.

Different subject. Colin mentions on that page Caroline posted that he was thinking about "that party" - and Jeremy supposedly having done something bad - what was it? I haven´t read the book.
Didn´t Jeremy drive Sheila home from that party because she wasn´t feeling good? That sounds like a nice thing to do, but Colin is talking about the party as if Jeremy did something awful.

Alias, our dear Steve would have us believe that Sheila wa so scared of Jeremy that she asked Colin to ask him to take her home from the party. I feel certain that closer to the truth was that Sheila wanted to get Colin on her own so she asked HIM to take her home. He told her that he'd had too much to drink and asked Jeremy to take her home. All I can think is that Jeremy told Sheila that Colin didn't want to take her home because he was with Heather, which WAS the truth, if a little cruel.

[Jane]

Obviously no one but bit odd behaviour to lie about it?

If we're still following the HPD path, self importance is a big part of it so it would make sense that she'd want to be seen at the centre of their lives.

[Alias]

Alias, our dear Steve would have us believe that Sheila wa so scared of Jeremy that she asked Colin to ask him to take her home from the party. I feel certain that closer to the truth was that Sheila wanted to get Colin on her own so she asked HIM to take her home. He told her that he'd had too much to drink and asked Jeremy to take her home. All I can think is that Jeremy told Sheila that Colin didn't want to take her home because he was with Heather, which WAS the truth, if a little cruel.

Yes, that could have been.
What I am asking is whether anyone here knows what Colin wrote in his book about that party? I don´t have the book and have not read it, maybe someone remembers?

[Jane]

Yes, that could have been.
What I am asking is whether anyone here knows what Colin wrote in his book about that party? I don´t have the book and have not read it, maybe someone remembers?

Alias, whilst I can recall reading about the party, I CAN'T recall WHAT I read about the party. It's getting on for 25 yrs since I read it

[maggie]

Yes, that could have been.
What I am asking is whether anyone here knows what Colin wrote in his book about that party? I don´t have the book and have not read it, maybe someone remembers?

I don't know Alias, haven't read Colin's book but I would love to know the answer as well.

[Alias]

Alias, whilst I can recall reading about the party, I CAN'T recall WHAT I read about the party. It's getting on for 25 yrs since I read it

Haha, then I don´t blame you! It´s just so strange that Colin apparently has written about something sinister Jeremy did at that party, and Sheila possibly was scared of him - and then lets him drive her home? Doesn´t quite go together.

[Alias]

I don't know Alias, haven't read Colin's book but I would love to know the answer as well.

I have looked for Colin´s book on Amazon, but it is quite expensive! The only page I have read is the one Caroline posted, and that made me lose a lot of faith in his general mindset and judgement!

[Jane]

Haha, then I don´t blame you! It´s just so strange that Colin apparently has written about something sinister Jeremy did at that party, and Sheila possibly was scared of him - and then lets him drive her home? Doesn´t quite go together.

There's a whole lot that doesn't, Alias. :D