The Noble Cause Framing Theory

[Bambergate]

Hi susan.   


But he's getting attention on the forum.  At least ask/demand to see proof - and keep an open mind until then. I have a feeling you'll be promise that this is all coming out 'very soon'....... We'll still be i the same boat at Christmas. (again) 

its been 29 years so I guess we can wait a few more

[guest154]

OK, I see - I need ask no more questions. I'll leave it there I think.

I'm glad you've not been sucked in.

its been 29 years so I guess we can wait a few more

Ah, I see. A few more years yeah.  Why not?   

[lookout]

Bambergate. This is a lie that I believe you've made up.

Don't you get to see what's been submitted Mat. ?

[guest154]

Don't you get to see what's been submitted Mat. ?

No, that was only the one time.
Even NGB will confirm that there was nothing pertaining to anyone giving SC a time of death in the last submissions and that he won't be aware of anyone coming forward with the documents Bambergate claims.

Simply because it's untrue.

[lookout]

Or are you just the pox doctors clerk ? So to speak.

[guest154]

Or are you just the pox doctors clerk ? So to speak.

Work is work, Lookout - as long as you're working and providing for your family I don't think it matters if you're the doctor, the clerk or the cleaner.

[Caroline]

My thanks also,Bambergate,,though I won't be surprised at whatever comes to the surface.

He hasn't provided on single bit of evidence, this is simply relying on blind faith. As I said before, this isn't a religion and I for one am not a disciple and require some kind of proof before I will take on-board such massive claims. 

[lookout]

Work is work, Lookout - as long as you're working and providing for your family I don't think it matters if you're the doctor, the clerk or the cleaner.

True--------I used to wash bums.

[Bambergate]

I'm glad you've not been sucked in.


Ah, I see. A few more years yeah.  Why not?   

Yes Mat put yourself in JB shoes
he has lost his whole family and  the last 29 years of his life and he has no money,what is waiting for him outside?
I think he can wait for the truth he has done for the last 3 decades.
what is your opinion?

[Alias]

True--------I used to wash bums.

RESPECT! Somebody needs to do it, and personally I respect all kinds of work!

[Caroline]

I'm glad you've not been sucked in.


Ah, I see. A few more years yeah.  Why not?   

Not a chance, I have always tried to provide evidence for anything I have said - blind faith isn't for me and I'm not going with 'you should believe this because 'I' say so'

A magician is only as good as his tricks or he is simply a comedian!! 

[lookout]

He hasn't provided on single bit of evidence, this is simply relying on blind faith. As I said before, this isn't a religion and I for one am not a disciple and require some kind of proof before I will take on-board such massive claims.

There's nothing in my answer that says anything one way or the other Caroline.

[guest154]

Yes Mat put yourself in JB shoes
he has lost his whole family and  the last 29 years of his life and he has no money,what is waiting for him outside?
I think he can wait for the truth he has done for the last 3 decades.
what is your opinion?

My opinion is that if anyone had access to information/witnesses/documents or anything that PROVED 100% JB was innocent, they would come forward and they would do it right away.

They wouldn't sit on a forum, teasing.

[Caroline]

There's nothing in my answer that says anything one way or the other Caroline.

If there was such proof, we'd have heard about it by now.

[guest154]

Not a chance, I have always tried to provide evidence for anything I have said - blind faith isn't for me and I'm not going with 'you should believe this because 'I' say so'

A magician is only as good as his tricks or he is simply a comedian!!