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Offline Jan

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #135 on: February 19, 2014, 08:10:PM »
I have not seen all court transcripts so I wonder how the police got round the fact that their own inspection stated house was fully secured from the inside.

Is there any evidence at all that they tested the window to see if it could mysteriously lock itself? Because if it could not then it must have been someone inside who carried out the crime .

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« Reply #136 on: February 19, 2014, 08:10:PM »

Jansus, I may be wrong but I have a feeling that they were actually TOLD that they didn't have to PROVE that he did it (get in through the window) only that it was POSSIBLE that he did. Why the HELL could the same noot have applied to Sheila?

Well, it could but she didn't need to get in, she was already in.  ;D ;D ;D ;D (Sorry April  ;D)
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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #137 on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:PM »
april that is what I read it did not have to be proved only that it could have happened :'( :'( :'( did Jeremy have a defence team :'(

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« Reply #138 on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:PM »
Well jansus, think it was Barbara Wilson who noticed the washing up liquid etc had been moved but then it was realised these things were probably moved by the police or their cleaners. There were also blood splashes on the same window but again confirmed the police cleanerz emptied their buckets with bloodied water and splashed the windows.. don't ask me is my answer followed by .... he didn't climb out of the window because he wasn't there.

Depends when the crime scene photo was taken of the window and what it shows before the cleaners were in . Also SC could have moved things -she could have helped clear up after supper or something . It is such an unclear picture I cant really see tbh.

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #139 on: February 19, 2014, 08:13:PM »
Well, it could but she didn't need to get in, she was already in.  ;D ;D ;D ;D (Sorry April  ;D)




Silly me. I asked for that one, didn't I ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #140 on: February 19, 2014, 08:16:PM »
Depends when the crime scene photo was taken of the window and what it shows before the cleaners were in . Also SC could have moved things -she could have helped clear up after supper or something . It is such an unclear picture I cant really see tbh.
As far as BW was concerned the washing up stuff was always in the same place til it was moved by the cleaners.

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« Reply #141 on: February 19, 2014, 08:22:PM »
As far as BW was concerned the washing up stuff was always in the same place til it was moved by the cleaners.

Who would notice something like that??  ::) ::)
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« Reply #142 on: February 19, 2014, 08:28:PM »
Who would notice something like that??  ::) ::)



Someone who was a housework/control freak :D

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #143 on: February 19, 2014, 08:39:PM »


Someone who was a housework/control freak :D

It might have even been her that told Anne Eaton about the shower head! . But considering the rest of the kitchen did not look like a tidy sort of place I somehow doubt there was a place for everything and everything in its place .

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #144 on: February 19, 2014, 08:48:PM »
I have not seen all court transcripts so I wonder how the police got round the fact that their own inspection stated house was fully secured from the inside.

Is there any evidence at all that they tested the window to see if it could mysteriously lock itself? Because if it could not then it must have been someone inside who carried out the crime .
Seem to remember the police tried it but didn't succeed but as I said the judge stated it didn't matter. The mind boggles!!!

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #145 on: February 19, 2014, 08:49:PM »
april a proper housekeeper would have the washing up liquid where it is meant to be in the cupboard under the sink that is what it is for ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2014, 08:50:PM »
It might have even been her that told Anne Eaton about the shower head! . But considering the rest of the kitchen did not look like a tidy sort of place I somehow doubt there was a place for everything and everything in its place .


That's a very valid point Jansus. I'm surprised that anybody could find anything in it.

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2014, 08:52:PM »
don't suppose anyone else has seen another crime scene photo of kitchen window ?


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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #148 on: February 19, 2014, 09:17:PM »
Who would notice something like that??  ::) ::)
I know it's hard to believe Caroline!! A place for everything and everything in it's place .... wierd!!

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Re: Beyond reasonable doubt.
« Reply #149 on: February 19, 2014, 09:20:PM »
It might have even been her that told Anne Eaton about the shower head! . But considering the rest of the kitchen did not look like a tidy sort of place I somehow doubt there was a place for everything and everything in its place .
Haha jansus very true but it seems the washing up liquid knew it's place??