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Offline mike tesko

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2014, 09:44:PM »
It was during one of our discussions about apparent inbreeding of people who were close friends or associates of the Bamber family, that I first learned of the occasion when June Bamber had caught Sheila in the barn with a cousin in a very compromising sexual predicament...

Jeremy told me, that the cousin involved was David Boutflour, or was it Anthony Pargeter...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2014, 09:45:PM »
Junes reaction to catching Sheila and a cousin having sex in the barn, caused June to have A MENTAL BREAKDOWN...
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« Reply #32 on: February 16, 2014, 09:46:PM »
hi mike accidently .canceled my account.sorry.

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« Reply #33 on: February 16, 2014, 09:47:PM »
june was a jesus nut lol.

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #34 on: February 16, 2014, 09:49:PM »
Junes reaction to catching Sheila and a cousin having sex in the barn, caused June to have A MENTAL BREAKDOWN...

I know it won't make the slightest difference but like April, I don't think this is really something we should be discussing. There is no evidence to support any of it anyway!!
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #35 on: February 16, 2014, 09:54:PM »
I have good reason to believe that on the late afternoon of the 6th August 1985, that there was some sort of a meeting between Sheila and the aforementioned cousin, that June Bamber found out about it, and that this discovery led to the cause of the events which unfolded that same evening, and on the following morning...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #36 on: February 16, 2014, 09:59:PM »
I believe that the purpose of Junes call to her sister Pamela on evening of 6th August 1985, was linked to the aforementioned events, and that Pamela Boutflour has not recorded the full details of what she and June spoke about on that occasion...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #37 on: February 16, 2014, 10:06:PM »
hello Maggie long time no swimming pool im ok hopefully I will be visiting a bit more now
Good to have you back Mertol  :D ;D

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #38 on: February 16, 2014, 10:13:PM »
I believe that the purpose of Junes call to her sister Pamela on evening of 6th August 1985, was linked to the aforementioned events, and that Pamela Boutflour has not recorded the full details of what she and June spoke about on that occasion...

It would also make some sense as to the reason why Sheila said very little on the phone whilst speaking to Pamela at about 10pm on evening of 6th August...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #39 on: February 16, 2014, 10:17:PM »
The cousin caught in a sexually compromising position years earlier with Sheila Caffell, David Boutflour, was the son of Pamela Boutflour, same relative who supposedly found the crucial silencer in the gun cupboard which had Sheila's blood inside it...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2014, 10:25:PM »
In my book, relatives knew that Sheila was staying at the farmhouse on evening 6th August 1985, and that on the following day, June intended to come and see Pamela about Sheila's behaviour which was described as having been very strange...

If Sheila's strange behaviour was linked to a recent meeting with the aforementioned cousin, and things were about to come to a head, it presented a five hour window of opportunity for the cousin to take the appropriate action, to get rid of her and the rest of the family, and to pin the blame onto Jeremy, but if true, it makes you wonder whether or not, the cousin fooled Jeremy into thinking it was Ralph that had called him in the middle of the night, alerting him to the possibility that Sheila had got the gun, and that she was going crazy, when all along it had been the cousin who had made the call to Jeremy from the farmhouse...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #41 on: February 16, 2014, 10:28:PM »
The phone call to Jeremys cottage from the scene was arguably made by the cousin, who shot the rest of the family with Sheila's HELP...
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #42 on: February 16, 2014, 10:31:PM »
The phone call to Jeremys cottage from the scene was arguably made by the cousin, who shot the rest of the family with Sheila's HELP...

Before Sheila died, she wrote out a coded message, leaving clues to help unravel what had been going on, and what had taken place:-

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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2014, 10:37:PM »
The ballistic expert, could only link 15 bullets from the crime to the Bamber owned rifle, which coincidentally matches the five number three's recorded in the coded message...

3
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Re: Motive for murders - Jeremy versus the relatives...
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2014, 10:37:PM »
what is the coded message supposed to say .other than please.mike?