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« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2013, 09:15:PM »
I know this is not relevant to what you are all discussing,but I just read on the official website that SC was in fact only 15 when she underwent her first abortion. Could this be a mistake?




Tyler, I would think that would be close to the truth. I don't know who was responsible for the pregnancy but the second one was certainly Colin's and I think she was about 17 then.

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« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2013, 09:19:PM »
I know this is not relevant to what you are all discussing,but I just read on the official website that SC was in fact only 15 when she underwent her first abortion. Could this be a mistake?





Hi tyler,,it has stated 17 in a number of links,so I'd think it was a touch of sensationalism on someones' part. June had caught Sheila and Colin in the field,,17 years of age.

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« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2013, 09:21:PM »
I know this is not relevant to what you are all discussing,but I just read on the official website that SC was in fact only 15 when she underwent her first abortion. Could this be a mistake?

Hi Tyler

It's a long while since I've looked at that website but I believe there are little tabs allowing the user to access further info?  I wanted to access June and SC's medi records but was unable to do so.  SC's medi records might confirm details of the first abortion.  I'm surprised the medi records are available for public consumption.  I guess they were in the public domain before data protection kicked in :-\

Btw anyone watching the beautiful game? 

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Re: Neglect and the Effect on Developing Brains of Babies/Small Children
« Reply #78 on: October 11, 2013, 09:23:PM »
I know this is not relevant to what you are all discussing,but I just read on the official website that SC was in fact only 15 when she underwent her first abortion. Could this be a mistake?

I reckon it is....Tyler.... :)

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« Reply #79 on: October 11, 2013, 09:40:PM »


To put it into perspective, perhaps Steve could try to imagine what it must be like to lay on a bed on which he was trapped by insurmountably high sides. He lays there thinking that someone will come soon, but they don't and he becomes frightened. He calls but nobody comes. He feels totally alone, rejected. Eventually, after what seems like hours, someone comes and leaves a plate of food but doesn't speak. This is the routine for the day. People come and go but take little notice of him. He longs for his mum. He needs a cuddle. He needs his mum to talk to him, but his mum doesn't come. I wonder how many days/WEEKS Steve could cope with this before there was an alteration in his personality?
The Defence are laying this on rather thick aren't they,and to use another cliche it seems they have now put all their eggs in one basket. How can you possibly know the above occurred to Sheila? At least Caroline in #52 admits it's all conjecture at best.

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« Reply #80 on: October 11, 2013, 09:42:PM »
Hi steve, you cannot just pluck a personality disorder out of the air and state Jeremy Bamber has such a disorder.
 
He has been tested many times for such disorders but none have been diagnosed. 
Narcissistic behaviour is easy to recognise and is not hidden, by it's very nature it is flaunted.

So its clear surely that JB does not fulfil that criteria imo
Funny,that's exactly the way I feel about Sheila's purported disorder,whatever the name of it is again..

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« Reply #81 on: October 11, 2013, 09:46:PM »
The Defence are laying this on rather thick aren't they,and to use another cliche it seems they have now put all their eggs in one basket. How can you possibly know the above occurred to Sheila? At least Caroline in #52 admits it's all conjecture at best.



Steve, all I'm asking you to do is imagine what it might feel like. As for conjecture, yes, but gleaned and worked backwards from our understanding of her life and her diagosed illness. Unlike your own conjectures regarding Jeremy, at least we have more than a canopy on a tractor cab to base ours on.

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« Reply #82 on: October 11, 2013, 09:47:PM »
Morning Maggie

Thinking about the above again I don't think JB would have had any real idea about SC.  He would have been 6 when she went to boarding school.  Thereafter they would only have met in school hols and no doubt some of the hols would have been spent on hols which their respective schools arranged and/or at the homes of their respective friend's.  When SC was 16/17 she left WHF for London and never returned.  JB still at boarding school.  It seems to me they spent very little time together.  I was with my brother every day unless we stayed at  friend's, relatives or on a school trip.
This is true at least,though I believe Sheila did introduce Jeremy to the clubbing scene and met some of her friends there. Of course this was at a time when Jeremy was proud to call Sheila the model his sister,before her fall from grace with the dreaded mental illness,which totally changed Jeremy's opinion of her.

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« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2013, 09:48:PM »
Funny,that's exactly the way I feel about Sheila's purported disorder,whatever the name of it is again..

No one is plucking Schizophrenia out of the air or the fact that she suffered from (on more than one occasion) psychotic episodes!!

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« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2013, 09:49:PM »
Funny,that's exactly the way I feel about Sheila's purported disorder,whatever the name of it is again..




But you regard psychology as psychobabble and appear to hold yourself more knowledgeable than experts.

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« Reply #85 on: October 12, 2013, 12:39:AM »
Lookout,When June caught SC and CC in the field together,SC had already had the abortion. SC was convalescing at whf and CC came to visit her. They were sunbathing half naked in the field and nothing more.

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« Reply #86 on: October 12, 2013, 08:01:PM »
This is what Dick Swaab, professor of neurobiology at the university of Amsterdam, has to say about the effects of neglect on the brain:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n3QI_d5c80&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Two brain scans: the left one of a normal child the right one of a neglected child of the same age.

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« Reply #87 on: October 12, 2013, 08:16:PM »
Similar effects on the brain as alcohol and addiction,so nothing new there. 

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« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2013, 08:32:PM »
Similar effects on the brain as alcohol and addiction,so nothing new there.

Hi Lookout

Do you mean babies born to mothers addicted to substances?

"Understanding the effects of maltreatment on brain development":
 
https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/issue_briefs/brain_development/effects.cfm

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« Reply #89 on: October 12, 2013, 08:39:PM »
Hi Lookout

Do you mean babies born to mothers addicted to substances?

"Understanding the effects of maltreatment on brain development":
 
https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/issue_briefs/brain_development/effects.cfm






Well that too,NN,,but the brains of those who drink alcohol regularly,and those who are addicted,,show a marked difference compared with how the brain should look,,so lifestyle whichever way you look at it,alters the brain,,not just those in unhappy/neglected children.