Seeking the Truth for Jeremy Bamber

[Nickos]

A good post,Nickos,,and also feasible as regards a hitman. I will tell you why.
Because of Jeremys' remark in saying that  he thought that he'd get " 18 months to 2 years ",,which has always puzzled me as to why,,what for.?
Could have been for the break-in at the caravan site,I don't know,,but I'd like to know why he said it,and I'm wondering if anyone else read it.
Why would he have thought he'd get imprisonment in the first place,,for a first offence.?
For being an accessory ( like Julie is,if this is true ) he'd have had a much longer sentence than 18 months/2 years.

Thanks lookout - and of course someone else doing it on behalf of JB adds to JB’ plausible denial.

[Patti]

Th killer may have attempted head shots to Nevill in the first instant.

If the killer was standing in, or near, the main bedroom doorway the fist two shots could have been across the bed to Nevills head (c. 4m), but they hit him in the jaw - June screams and the killer, distracted, turns the rifle on her - allowing Nevill to move around the bed - the killer turns again and hits a moving Nevill in the shoulder (near the head). Nevill exits the bedroom and is shot at gain hitting him in the arm.

Not so.....The shoulder and the arm shot was done with Neville's back to the shooter.  The shoulder shot was a downward shot which meant that the shooter was in a higher position than Neville.  Could have been that the shoulder shot was received when NB was going downstairs hence the case shell found on the landing.   

Nickos you have not responded to my lengthy reply from the previous page.   

[grahameb]

Thanks lookout - and of course someone else doing it on behalf of JB adds to JB’ plausible denial.

One reasonable objection to this senario is that no professional hitman would kill 5 people for any small amount of money. Today's terms are £600 just to frighten someone. JB's bank account would be very revealing and I doubt very much that he had that much cash around to make any hitman even to get out of bed.

[Patti]

One reasonable objection to this senario is that no professional hitman would kill 5 people for any small amount of money. Today's terms are £600 just to frighten someone. JB's bank account would be very revealing and I doubt very much that he had that much cash around to make any hitman even to get out of bed.

Hi Grahame   I can't imagine a hit man in what we term as a hit man...one who goes in goes a professional job then out. 

Those murders are not done by anyone professional are they? 

Not one bullet was on target, yet no bullet missed any of them....

No one of sound mind could go it and kill like that and be normal in my opinion. 

[lookout]

Grahame,,my argument is that because it's been said that it was either Jeremy or Sheila,,the police didn't,,and haven't come up with any concrete proof either way,,but instead jailed Jeremy on the pretext that " it was probably him ". This in itself is wrong,as the verdict should have been insufficient evidence,surely.?
Let's say for instance Jeremy did do it,,,,there's still no forensic evidence available to have put him away for all these years. You can't incarcerate someone on hearsay.

[killingeve]

One reasonable objection to this senario is that no professional hitman would kill 5 people for any small amount of money. Today's terms are £600 just to frighten someone. JB's bank account would be very revealing and I doubt very much that he had that much cash around to make any hitman even to get out of bed.

Hi Grahame

I agree.  I hope I don't sound like a grumpy old woman but nothing irritates me more on this forum than when I see posts about the hitman theory, or MM being in some way involved or the scruffy man supposedly seen running away etc, etc.  I shouldn't feel irritated as its a discussion board but I can't help it. 

Here are some of NGB's old posts re this:

http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1393.msg44168.html#msg44168

[lookout]

Grahame,,my argument is that because it's been said that it was either Jeremy or Sheila,,the police didn't,,and haven't come up with any concrete proof either way,,but instead jailed Jeremy on the pretext that " it was probably him ". This in itself is wrong,as the verdict should have been insufficient evidence,surely.?
Let's say for instance Jeremy did do it,,,,there's still no forensic evidence available to have put him away for all these years. You can't incarcerate someone on hearsay.

[lookout]

Oooops---again.

[Patti]

Grahame,,my argument is that because it's been said that it was either Jeremy or Sheila,,the police didn't,,and haven't come up with any concrete proof either way,,but instead jailed Jeremy on the pretext that " it was probably him ". This in itself is wrong,as the verdict should have been insufficient evidence,surely.?
Let's say for instance Jeremy did do it,,,,there's still no forensic evidence available to have put him away for all these years. You can't incarcerate someone on hearsay.

I thought I was seeing something there Lookout..Your post has appeared twice yet not increased your total amount in your profile....I thought I am sure I have read this once lolol 

[wilf]

what sort of hit man would break in on the promise of a gun left out for him ? he would bring his own pistol he would empty the antiques to make it look like a burglery gone wrong and torch the place. WHF is remote enough to have no witnesses while he carries this out.
what sort of idiot would hire a hit man and then stay at home so he has no alibi rather than go somewhere where he will be seen to be far from the shootings?

wilf

[susan]

Wilf very well said the hit man theory is totally ridiculous

[lookout]

what sort of hit man would break in on the promise of a gun left out for him ? he would bring his own pistol he would empty the antiques to make it look like a burglery gone wrong and torch the place. WHF is remote enough to have no witnesses while he carries this out.
what sort of idiot would hire a hit man and then stay at home so he has no alibi rather than go somewhere where he will be seen to be far from the shootings?

wilf

All I have to say,Wilf,,is because everyone believed what Julie Mugford said in her statements,,then there's no smoke without fire,and she should be named along with Rose West,Myra Hindley and Maxine Carr,,because she aided and abetted Jeremy if he was the killer,,besides leaping into bed with him post-murders. The woman is no better than him,if he is the murderer,yet she's been immune in all this.

If there were to be a re-trial,,Jeremy would walk free.

[susan]

Hi N/N I get slightly irate over this hit man ridiculous theory and we all know where it came from don't we.

[killingeve]

I thought I was seeing something there Lookout..Your post has appeared twice yet not increased your total amount in your profile....I thought I am sure I have read this once lolol 

Lol Patti most posts/threads on here are repeats  . Ok a variation on a theme 

[Jane]

what sort of hit man would break in on the promise of a gun left out for him ? he would bring his own pistol he would empty the antiques to make it look like a burglery gone wrong and torch the place. WHF is remote enough to have no witnesses while he carries this out.
what sort of idiot would hire a hit man and then stay at home so he has no alibi rather than go somewhere where he will be seen to be far from the shootings?

wilf

Wilf, excellent as your post is, you've left out one VERY important "What sort of......." Apparently he took those chances, broke in, murdered 3 x adults and 2 x children, took not a trinket, all for FREE!!!!! NOTHING!!! According to Ms Mugford, he was PROMISED £2000 but he didn't get it and presumably didn't ask for it. I mean, WOULD you?