Why did Victor Temple represent me in 1994, and represent CPS in Bamber appeal..

[lookout]

Why would a QC, based in London (Temple Chambers) want to represent me, on a burglary charge, where £25,000 of silverware was reportedly stolen, from a retired judges house

It doesn't sound right at all.

[mike tesko]

It doesn't sound right at all.

More importantly...

why did Temple, QC, ignore the fact that a judge entered my plea at arraignment, despite the fact that according to the law, he (judge) could not do such a thing?

[jim ignatowski]

More importantly...

why did Temple, QC, ignore the fact that a judge entered my plea at arraignment, despite the fact that according to the law, he (judge) could not do such a thing?

Hi Mike
But your plea was "not guilty" so what frikkin difference did  it make to the outcome?
jim

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike
But your plea was "not guilty" so what frikkin difference did  it make to the outcome?
jim

Stop being stupid, I didn't enter a plea...

Get your facts right...

[jim ignatowski]

Stop being stupid, I didn't enter a plea...

Get your facts right...

hi mike
But the plea entered by the Judge was 'not guilty' so what frikkin difference did it make to the outcome?
Jim

[mike tesko]

hi mike
But the plea entered by the Judge was 'not guilty' so what frikkin difference did it make to the outcome?
Jim

The law is, a judge cannot enter a plea on behalf of a defendant, that is the law, I didn't make the law up, the judge himself said after legal arguments were made in open court (transcripted because of the serious nature with which the judge flouted the law), he said that if I should go on to be tried and convicted then I would have a valid ground of appeal, and the convictions would no doubt be quashed, so there it is, a judge making the law up as he goes along, an utter disgrace, and that just about sums up the state of the criminal justice system, and all its agencies, they do what they want, and if your on the receiving end, you ain't got jack shit of a chance of getting any justice, its a closed shop, a nod, a wink, a funny handshake, and afterwards, its to the club and free drinks all around, and then its, bring on the next victim, please...

You wouldn't know because you have never been on the receiving end of this corrupted, outdated, system, or anything criminal those who work in it, get up to...

[mike tesko]

The law is a judge cannot enter a plea on behalf of a defendant, that is the law, I didn't make the law up, the judge himself said after legal arguments were made in open court (transcripted because of the serious nature with which the judge flouted the law), he said that if I should go on to be tried and convicted then I would have a valid ground of appeal, and the convictions would no doubt be quashed, so there it is, a judge making the law up as he goes along, an utter disgrace, and that just about sums up the state of the criminal justice system, and all its agencies, they do what they want, and if your on the receiving end, you ain't got jack shit of a chance of getting any justice, its a closed shop, a nod, a wink, a funny handshake, and afterwards, its to the club and free drinks all around, and then its, bring on the next victim, please...

You wouldn't know because you have never been on the receiving end of this corrupted, outdated, system, or anything criminal those who work in it, get up to...

You wouldn't know how it feels from the position of someone who was / or is, a victim of a miscarriagge of justice...

[mike tesko]

A trial is only legal if certain procedures are followed to the letter of the law, unless your case is a miscarriage of justice, then the twats do what they want...

[mike tesko]

A trial is only legal if certain procedures are followed to the letter of the law, unless your case is a miscarriage of justice, then the twats do what they want...

They lie, they fabricate, they are bias - all in the game to promote the Criminal justice system, and those who act corruptly and dishonestly in its name...

[killingeve]

They lie, they fabricate, they are bias - all in the game to promote the Criminal justice system, and those who act corruptly and dishonestly in its name...

Hi Mike

Well imo JB was wrongfully convicted and I've no doubt that justice will eventually be served.  Lets hope as a result a radical overhaul of the justice system is carried out.  If so you will have played a significant part in bringing about the long overdue change by promoting what is imo the greatest ever MoJ the country has ever known    Keep banging the drums 

[vidvic]

I could not believe that I ended up convicted at my trial in 1994, when Victor Temple represented me, and then six years later, he is representing the prosecutions case to keep Bamber in jail for the rest of his life - I feel let down, and it makes me feel like I let Jeremy down by confiding so much information in Temple, QC, about his case, when all along Temple was simply using me to find out all he could about Jeremys approach to any forthcoming appeal - it's disgusting...

Very confused about how you discussed Bamber with Temple in 1988 (as in the thread title) or in 1994 (as in the post above) when you didn't know Bamber in 1988?

Temple represented the crown in 2002 appeal which is eight years from '94, not 6.

You were rightly acquitted in one case but was convincted of the other. Are you saying that both were miscarriages of justice? Were you not arrested whilst on bail prior to appeal of the first case? 

[mike tesko]

Hi Mike

Well imo JB was wrongfully convicted and I've no doubt that justice will eventually be served.  Lets hope as a result a radical overhaul of the justice system is carried out.  If so you will have played a significant part in bringing about the long overdue change by promoting what is imo the greatest ever MoJ the country has ever known  :)  Keep banging the drums  ;D

Hi,

I agree with you that the so called Bamber debacle is arguably the worst miscarriage of justice case ever...

I only have around 50,000 documents relating to the file, many of which I have not got around to reading properly, can you begin to imagine all the material currently withheld under pii, in the so called interests of justice - exactly what does the state mean by its reference to "in the interests of justice"? Who's interests, and, what sort of justice? You only have to read the shorthand (typed) notes from Jeremys 2002 appeal, and compare what was said in the submissions, and how that panel of judges made it clear right from the word go, that there was no prospect of them considering any impropriety on the part of the police in his case, and then compare all of this against the content of the court judgement (2002) itself, to realize that "bias" played a significant role, in Bambers appeal being rejected...

It's disgusting, utterley deplorable, if your cards marked "you don't stand a cat in hells chance of receiving a fair trial", or "of ever getting a fair appeal" - even if you are lucky enough to get someone to represent your interests, someone who will not take "no" for an answer, even if the evidence is there to prove the case against you was / is a false one, and the court of appeal finds itself backed into a corner, it can always implement a "proviso", to prevent a case being heard in a higher court. They are full of shit, crooks, liars, and Conspirators...

[mike tesko]

They decide what is inadmissable, what is admissable, they decide what is hearsay, and what is not hearsay, they decide if evidence is an opinion of fact, or not an opinion of fact, they decide what is allowed in as evidence, and what is kept out, they operate in a circle of lies, but pretend that what they do occurs within a circle of truth, criminals the lot of them, dispicable examples of human beings, they lie, they fabricate, and serve the devil, which is the State - demons work for the agencies of the State, you cannot trust them to do anyone, any good. Beware when they are about and have you in thier sights, because should that occur, life will never be the same again for you...

You will not be who you thought you were, you will not be where you think you are, you,ll be "as good as dead", no-one will hear your shouts of protestations and cries, you will be be beyond help, then and only then will you know the one thing that matters to you until the last breath leaves your body, not until no more sight can be seen through thine eyes, right up to the last faint beat of your heart, will you find peace, until then you will always be a victim, just another miscarriage of justice...

[vidvic]

When did you meet bamber and wasn't it after 1988?

If you're a self confessed 'Career criminal', but on two occasions you imply a MOJ, then are you a criminal at all?

[mike tesko]

In my opinion, Temple should not have taken the post of opposing Bambers 2002 appeal, because he sounded me out about things Bamber and me knew were wrong with the police case built up to help convict Jeremy - I was under the impression that Temple was prepared to try and help Bamber, but all along Temple threw me to the wolves in 1994, and set about helping to keep Bamber in jail for the rest of his life in 2002...

I was betrayed by Temple, QC, So was Jeremy...



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