Police Interview under caution of Julie Mugford...

[mike tesko]

Gun fight at high noon - I wonder if Dodgy David will lend me his dody semi-automatic Anshulz rifle...

If he did it'd probably have no bullets in it...

[mike tesko]

In addition to the witheld interview of Dodgy Mugford under caution, which contains evidence of her culpability in the various crimes she is guilty of having committed, such as burglary, drug dealings, cheque book fraud, and that Jones induced her to consider helping the police in favour of not prosecuting her at all, there is also the matter of rhe Missing original witness statement she made (September 1985) which was written out in the third person, and signed by her...

This missing witness statement was / is written up in Dodgy DS "Stan" Jones handwriting...

So, there's no guessing what went off there...

[lookout]

In addition to the witheld interview of Dodgy Mugford under caution, which contains evidence of her culpability in the various crimes she is guilty of having committed, such as burglary, drug dealings, cheque book fraud, and that Jones induced her to consider helping the police in favour of not prosecuting her at all, there is also the matter of rhe Missing original witness statement she made (September 1985) which was written out in the third person, and signed by her...

This missing witness statement was / is written up in Dodgy DS "Stan" Jones handwriting...

So, there's no guessing what went off there...

These missing statements have a habit of being written in barely legible handwriting. On purpose,of course.

[killingeve]

Pargeters brother Roland was a self confessed druggie. He was the one that introduced the story of planes dropping off consignments at whf.

Hi Tyler

Yes apparently he stayed at WHF for a period in an attempt to get clean and June attempted to help him.  I guess the cannabis found in the safe belonged to him?  Wonder why NB or June didn't just throw it?

[lookout]

Hi Tyler

Yes apparently he stayed at WHF for a period in an attempt to get clean and June attempted to help him.  I guess the cannabis found in the safe belonged to him?  Wonder why NB or June didn't just throw it?

Maybe they were scared to,NN. Ever seen a cannabis smoker,,or druggie without a " fix ".?

[killingeve]

Maybe they were scared to,NN. Ever seen a cannabis smoker,,or druggie without a " fix ".?

No Lookout I haven't.  I thought cannabis just chilled you?  I've attempted to smoke cannabis about half a dozen times but as I've never smoked normal cigarettes I had difficulty taking it down so it didn't seem to have much effect    Just stick to wine or beer for a bit of a buzz/chill out - that does me 

[Alias]

I have tried smoking cannabis too. It has a bad effect on me, so I stopped doing THAT fast! However, I know many who smoke it, but I have never experienced other "side effects" than that they are more mellow than other people, verging on being apathic (some of them). I have never seen any of them "crave" the next "fix". Cannabis isn´t that strong, and it doesn´t affect you like harder drugs.
Just my experience.

[lookout]

Most likely its stronger component,,skunk. Some do suffer/struggle if the drug gets out of their system.

[maggie]

I have tried smoking cannabis too. It has a bad effect on me, so I stopped doing THAT fast! However, I know many who smoke it, but I have never experienced other "side effects" than that they are more mellow than other people, verging on being apathic (some of them). I have never seen any of them "crave" the next "fix". Cannabis isn´t that strong, and it doesn´t affect you like harder drugs.
Just my experience.

I have to disagree Alias, a heavy smoker of the stronger hybrid forms of cannabis can become addicted and it's a difficult business kicking the habit.  Also, these hybrid forms ie skunk and others cause psychosis and in many cases can lead to permanent brain damage.  Even Amsterdam is trying to reclassify these kinds of cannabis as a class A drug like heroin.  This cannabis wasn't around in the early 80s although now it's much easier to get than the original and gentler, imported stuff.

[Steve_uk]

It was Julie selling Jeremy's cannabis to make him some more money as he was constantly whining about financial pressures,it was Julie who was uneasy about acting as lookout for Jeremy who was the instigator in the Osea Road robbery,it was Julie who wanted to please Jeremy and egged on by her friend Susan Battersby foolishly spent one afternoon in Oxford Street committing cheque book fraud buying jeans and a coffee maker for Jeremy. None of this would have come to light had Julie not volunteered the information,and of course Jeremy had to stay silent on all relevant matters concerning Julie lest he implicate himself further in the quintuple murder as Jeremy's Freudian slip described it in one of his letters.

[Alias]

It was Julie selling Jeremy's cannabis to make him some more money as he was constantly whining about financial pressures,it was Julie who was uneasy about acting as lookout for Jeremy who was the instigator in the Osea Road robbery,it was Julie who wanted to please Jeremy and egged on by her friend Susan Battersby foolishly spent one afternoon in Oxford Street committing cheque book fraud buying jeans and a coffee maker for Jeremy. None of this would have come to light had Julie not volunteered the information,and of course Jeremy had to stay silent on all relevant matters concerning Julie lest he implicate himself further in the quintuple murder as Jeremy's Freudian slip described it in one of his letters.

So Julie says. To me that is just that, her claim. BTW, no one was forcing her hand, she was an adult at the time and made some bad - and criminal choices all hers. That she chooses to blame it ALL on Jeremy just goes to show her character. It is admirable to take ownership of your own actions, anything else is pathetic.

[Steve_uk]

She never did blame the Oxford Street escapade on Jeremy,but maybe wanted to cheer him up after his constant complaints about being left short of money and being down in the dumps.

[lookout]

It was Julie selling Jeremy's cannabis to make him some more money as he was constantly whining about financial pressures,it was Julie who was uneasy about acting as lookout for Jeremy who was the instigator in the Osea Road robbery,it was Julie who wanted to please Jeremy and egged on by her friend Susan Battersby foolishly spent one afternoon in Oxford Street committing cheque book fraud buying jeans and a coffee maker for Jeremy. None of this would have come to light had Julie not volunteered the information,and of course Jeremy had to stay silent on all relevant matters concerning Julie lest he implicate himself further in the quintuple murder as Jeremy's Freudian slip described it in one of his letters.

I reckon that Julie kept draining Jeremys' resources.That's why he had to look at other ways of earning enough to keep up with her tastes.She'd have been high-maintenance,,all or nothing. A drain.
Julie showed the signs by her thefts,,much wanting more.

[Alias]

She never did blame the Oxford Street escapade on Jeremy,but maybe wanted to cheer him up after his constant complaints about being left short of money and being down in the dumps.

She actually did say that she did it to "please" (not exactly that word, but close enough) Jeremy. Can´t remember where I saw it, perhaps someone here can help me?

[Caroline R]

It was Julie selling Jeremy's cannabis to make him some more money as he was constantly whining about financial pressures,it was Julie who was uneasy about acting as lookout for Jeremy who was the instigator in the Osea Road robbery,it was Julie who wanted to please Jeremy and egged on by her friend Susan Battersby foolishly spent one afternoon in Oxford Street committing cheque book fraud buying jeans and a coffee maker for Jeremy. None of this would have come to light had Julie not volunteered the information,and of course Jeremy had to stay silent on all relevant matters concerning Julie lest he implicate himself further in the quintuple murder as Jeremy's Freudian slip described it in one of his letters.

It was Julie who 'egged' on Susan Battersby. You tend to change the facts to suit!!