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Offline Patti

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #270 on: April 27, 2013, 06:39:PM »
Hello lookout  steve was having a joke with you as he often does.  I knew what he meant ;D ;D ;D Keep up girl ;D  refuse to comment on the feather or the time. ;D

Why?  :D :D :D :D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #271 on: April 27, 2013, 06:44:PM »
It makes a massive difference, because the prosecution tried to make out that Jeremy called Julie prior to having received a telephone call from his father and also calling her prior to calling the police....Whether the clock was fast or not it cannot be confirmed to how fast it was just after the murders, because as we know the clock was fast by 9 minutes on one occasion and 12 on another...so who is to say how fast it was just after the murders and prior to moving the clock back an hour in October...the only seconds that come into this is given by Jones.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The purpose of Stan Jones checks was only to show that SB was in the habit of setting her clock 10 minutes fast, not to prove that it was 10 minutes fast at the time of the murders. The fact that it was only 9 1/2 minutes fast in November 1985 and 12 minutes fast in September 1986 hardly makes her a liar. My cooker says it's 6.42 and my microwave says its 6.45, yet my iPad reckons it's 6.44, which one of them is lying to me?
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #272 on: April 27, 2013, 06:52:PM »
Patti if I comment on the feather and the time I maybe banned and we don't want that do we ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #273 on: April 27, 2013, 07:23:PM »
The timing of the second telephone call to Julie was irrelevant insofar as one would expect even Jeremy to make sure he did not drop a clue that his family were dead before he himself knew through the purported call from his father that "there's something wrong at the Farm". As it was Julie went back to bed knowing full well for those few ghastly intervening hours that all occupants of the Farm were dead,though she was not at this stage cognizant of whether Jeremy himself or a proxy was the culprit. One of the questions Jeremy lamely answered during interrogation was why did he telephone Julie at all in the middle of the night,when he seldom took Julie's advice on any other matter. The only explanation I can see which fits is that he wanted to tie Julie in as an accessory,along with the excuse for having the ladies' bicycle at Goldhanger which no lady had used covering herself in mud,and of course the sleeping pills which he had taken from Julie to attempt to drug his parents on a previous occasion.

Of course when Julie went to the Police Jeremy had only two courses of action open to him:either admit the murders and rope Julie in on the scheme or to bluff his way out of everything and claim innocence. One post I read today was that Jeremy's Defence team made mistakes. Of course the did:they were all public school types with their noses in the air most of the time thinking they could bluster their way out of everything. Unfortunately they were up against another public school type in Mr. Justice Drake who being himself an ex RAF Officer must have felt an affinity with Nevill Bamber and did his utmost to secure a conviction.

The late Edmund Lawson went to a comp.  Perhaps if he hadn't have done he might not have got lost en route from court to the shooting range  ;D ;D ;D By getting lost he missed a vital opportunity to observe jurors witnessing the event of shots being fired with and without a silencer fitted.  Come to think of it couldn't it have been reenacted inside a building?  Surely the army/police must possess such buildings for training? Oh I forgot wasn't that what WHF was used for?

I have no idea about Geoffrey Rivlin's schooling.  I know he usually practised on the Northern circuit and normally acted as a prosecutor.

At '02 CoA it was Michael Turner's first case as a newly appointed Queen's Counsel.  As we know we all have to start somewhere.  But there appears to have been a real mismatch in terms of experience etc between prosecution and defence. 

I might start a thread on the above to compare backgrounds, experience at time of acting for JB, notable cases etc.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #274 on: April 27, 2013, 07:26:PM »
That's where the murder weapon stuck,I believe at Fingringhoe Ranges,making it almost impossible for Sheila to have manhandled..

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #275 on: April 27, 2013, 07:29:PM »
The purpose of Stan Jones checks was only to show that SB was in the habit of setting her clock 10 minutes fast, not to prove that it was 10 minutes fast at the time of the murders. The fact that it was only 9 1/2 minutes fast in November 1985 and 12 minutes fast in September 1986 hardly makes her a liar. My cooker says it's 6.42 and my microwave says its 6.45, yet my iPad reckons it's 6.44, which one of them is lying to me?

What a load of bollocks, who are you trying to convince...
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #276 on: April 27, 2013, 07:32:PM »
That's where the murder weapon stuck,I believe at Fingringhoe Ranges,making it almost impossible for Sheila to have manhandled..


You've just made that up,haven't you,Steve.? Is it a place.?

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #277 on: April 27, 2013, 07:32:PM »
That's where the murder weapon stuck,I believe at Fingringhoe Ranges,making it almost impossible for Sheila to have manhandled..

I thought that was at FSS?  Can you point me in the direction where the weapons expert confirms the above?

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #278 on: April 27, 2013, 07:36:PM »
Hi lookout think he means Rangers Football Ground ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #279 on: April 27, 2013, 07:39:PM »

You've just made that up,haven't you,Steve.? Is it a place.?

Ha ha! Yes it is, and I think he's right. Can't locate the source of the info though, probably Wilkes book.
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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #280 on: April 27, 2013, 07:39:PM »
I thought that was at FSS?  Can you point me in the direction where the weapons expert confirms the above?
It's in Chapter 35 of Blood Relations.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #281 on: April 27, 2013, 07:43:PM »
It's in Chapter 35 of Blood Relations.

Ok thanks.  I don't have the book to hand at the mo but I'll check it out. 

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #282 on: April 27, 2013, 07:44:PM »
In all fairness though the clock had been put back an hour upon S. Jones checking the clock at the flat of SB's

Plus when Julie gave her first statement regarding the time, she told police it was 3:30 but then had it verified by Sue B it was 3:15.  Then come November after Jones made his visit it became 3:00

If SB stated the time was 3:15 why did Stan J. go to the flat to prove her wrong? What was his purpose of that? Was he persuasive to a point where she suddenly recalled that she set her clock 10 minutes fast.....The truth of the matter is, is that she said it was 3:15 at the onset....now did she remove 10 minutes from that time already which means that the call was 3:25 lolol  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Too much in this case hinges on clocks either being ten minutes fast or ten minutes slow. Seems like the times were bent and twisted to fit the case. DODGY!

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #283 on: April 27, 2013, 07:44:PM »
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just a minute while I peruse it.

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Re: Statement of Ann Eaton 8th - 13th September 1985
« Reply #284 on: April 27, 2013, 07:47:PM »
So it is-----------on the Essex marshes. Here was I thinking it was Southern Spain.