Who were the Defendants in this case?

[Liz]

Several members also consider this 3rd scenario  including myself  i very much doubt there will be any form of surpressing such views.

I am pleased to hear that, Mertol

[Nuala]

Great post Chochok Eira. And I agree with what you are saying. As there was no physical evidence pointing to either Sheila or Jeremy having carried out the murders, I do not believe that either were responsible. I am one of the very few on here that fimly believe in the third party scenario, and cannot understand why so many aren't even willing to consider it. I am convinced that Neville was forced to make that call to Jeremy, that the persons expected him to speed over there, and the plan was to kill him as well. But the plan backfired.

Thank you, Liz.

[bloggs and son]

Great post Chochok Eira. And I agree with what you are saying. As there was no physical evidence pointing to either Sheila or Jeremy having carried out the murders, I do not believe that either were responsible. I am one of the very few on here that fimly believe in the third party scenario, and cannot understand why so many aren't even willing to consider it. I am convinced that Neville was forced to make that call to Jeremy, that the persons expected him to speed over there, and the plan was to kill him as well. But the plan backfired.

I too have considered the possibility of a third party. If there was a third party then that third party must have known something of Sheila's mental history in order to make her the focus of the crime. Therefore we would possibly be looking for a suspect very close to home?

[campion]

  Maggie, Your post #26 - Have you seen, or can you access Beatrice Cecilia Bamber's Will ? It may be of interest to ascertain how her estate was apportioned.

[Liz]

I too have considered the possibility of a third party. If there was a third party then that third party must have known something of Sheila's mental history in order to make her the focus of the crime. Therefore we would possibly be looking for a suspect very close to home?

Precisely, Grahame. So that would probably rule Bell out as a viable suspect?

[maggie]

  Maggie, Your post #26 - Have you seen, or can you access Beatrice Cecilia Bamber's Will ? It may be of interest to ascertain how her estate was apportioned.

Can try tomorrow campion on my phone at moment.

[mertol22]

Precisely, Grahame. So that would probably rule Bell out as a viable suspect?

as for now a theory in what form were they told ?

[maggie]

Why? Bell may very well have known. In a community like that people talk.

[Liz]

Why? Bell may very well have known. In a community like that people talk.

You could be right, Maggie, and perhaps he was involved. But for all sorts of reasons, I believe it was someone else

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

So, when the trial judge told the jury that they had to choose between Sheila or Jeremy as to who was responsible for the shootings, he misdirected them because there was evidence that Jeremy had complained to a police officer at the scene that he thought the police had shot his family, not that Sheila or anybody else had shot them, and certainly by this stage when he made such a serious allegation to a police officer that police had shot his family, there was no suggestion that Jeremy could have shot any of them?

Mike lets get this straight.  The trial judge did not misdirect the jury by telling them that the killer was either Sheila or Jeremy Bamber. It had been agreed between prosecution and defence before the trial began that this was the case. Based on the phone call from Jeremy Bamber to the police. He himself made it a two horse race!

[Nuala]

You could be right, Maggie, and perhaps he was involved. But for all sorts of reasons, I believe it was someone else

James Bell was a local man, Liz. He was well known in the area and knew it well. I'm told he knew the Bambers.


Birth Registration:

Name: James Bell
Registration district: Colchester
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1936
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's maiden name: Gibson
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 1313

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

sorry chock but this is relevant how? he was not considered as a "defendant" in the original trial. so unless you can produce new evidence of him being present in WHF on that night with the murder weapon, why should we even discuss him?

[tyler]

sorry chock but this is relevant how? he was not considered as a "defendant" in the original trial. so unless you can produce new evidence of him being present in WHF on that night with the murder weapon, why should we even discuss him?

Why are your posts always so damn rude?

I dont believe that Keira was discussing this with you anyway,but with Maggie?

[tyler]

You could be right, Maggie, and perhaps he was involved. But for all sorts of reasons, I believe it was someone else

Liz......I too favour the "third party" scenario,and have someone in mind that I dont think that anyone else has considered.Is there anybody that you are suspicious of?You dont have to name him/her.

[Bridget]

I think for any 3rd party theories to be viable an explanation is needed as to why they would take such a huge risk for no apparent gain. Also, why would such a person want to kill the whole family?