How I Iost the photo` of Sheila on the Bed...

[susan]

vidvic  I do so agree with you I am starting to enjoy posting again we can have different opinions but discuss it without malice or arrogance.  Thanks for posting that.

[NewChilledOutHartley]

I guess I shouldn't start that thread "How I lost that photo of Mike in a Mankini" then? 

[NewChilledOutHartley]

I know this might sound somewhat controversial, but as everyone knows on here I have enormous sympathy for Sheila and her troubled life, however I do wonder how Sheila would have fared had she have been tested for psychopathic traits?   Many people instantly think of a Hannibal Lecter type but I understand a psychopath is someone who is nr zero on empathy.  Given Sheila's difficult start in life I don't think I'm being unfair in saying she might have been nr zero on empathy?

Hi egap1,

Not controversial as such, but may I ask what you mean by "fared"? Do you mean in terms of an intervention to potentially avoid the night in question?

I'm not sure about the 'zero empathy comment', certainly it's possible, but when Kerry Daynes is being called out for making assumptions about Jeremy without actually meeting him, then ...... well, did you ever meet Sheila? If not then how do you consider yourself qualified to make such a sweeping statement, or rather suggestion?

Sometimes I think too much is assumed or interpreted, I'm sure the same goes with regards to JB.

Another question which has bugged me for a while, can you explain your username? You don't have to, but is it '1Page' backwards, in reference to Pages Lane perhaps? Or something completely different?

[curiousessex]

Any news on whether to alleged photograph has been recovered from the hard drive yet?

[Buddy]

Sheila was a very misunderstood and misguided soul.

No Sheila was a rebel, and hated farm life. It seems she also hated June, as much as the twins. Colin felt the need to speak to Nevill about June making the boys pray.
Who wrote on the cupboard I HATE THIS PLACE, It certainly was not one of the twins.
Sheila was not a misguided nor misunderstood soul, she had made her bed, even though Nevill had tried to guide her.
He got the flat for her hoping she would change her ways, but unfotunately she was hoplessly addicted to hard drugs..
I think it has been proved that Sheila was a regular drug user, mixed with her medication anything could have happened and did.
As far as foster care is concerned, it is my understanding that Colin was the guardian of the children, and would not have the children taken away.
Whatever triggered Sheila was not influenced by the foster care suggestion.

[lookout]

Buddy,how about a reaction to her medication.? As with certain medications for psychotic disorders,it's a question of trial and error as to which is going to be the most suitable. With any medication,it can have adverse effects on different people,in different ways. Some reactions can and do give rise to further irrational behaviour. Then of course taken with other drugs dependent on what they were, would defeat the object thus cancelling out the effectiveness of the treatment given.
So in effect,it would mean that what Sheila took for her mental illness wouldn't have worked because of the chemical reaction of her prescription drugs and her addictive drugs.

[Roch]

It has not been made public yet so it would not be right for me to name the source here.  What I can say is that the evidence comes from someone who did provide witness statements for the trial (although not in relation to this) and was in a position to know about this and is a credible witness.  Obviously this does not directly corroborate Jeremy's account of the discussion at WHF the evening before the murders but it does support his assertion that this was something being discussed within the family.

"I have been asked to express an opinion as to how she might have reacted if she became aware of a proposal to remove the children from her care.  I would expect a very negative reaction.  She would resist it in any way she knew. It would threaten whatever precarious balances she had. Her precise responses would be difficult to predict: she could have withdrawn into depression or have become angry and vitriolic.”

[ajross]

No Sheila was a rebel, and hated farm life. It seems she also hated June, as much as the twins. Colin felt the need to speak to Nevill about June making the boys pray.
Who wrote on the cupboard I HATE THIS PLACE, It certainly was not one of the twins.
Sheila was not a misguided nor misunderstood soul, she had made her bed, even though Nevill had tried to guide her.
He got the flat for her hoping she would change her ways, but unfotunately she was hoplessly addicted to hard drugs..
I think it has been proved that Sheila was a regular drug user, mixed with her medication anything could have happened and did.
As far as foster care is concerned, it is my understanding that Colin was the guardian of the children, and would not have the children taken away.

I read there was a photo of the ' I hate this place' scratched in the wardrobe door, has anybody seen it? It would be interesting to look at
Whatever triggered Sheila was not influenced by the foster care suggestion.

[mertol22]

" I hate this place " is here on the forum i saw the photo  big letters too.

[ajross]

" I hate this place " is here on the forum i saw the photo  big letters too.

Thanks, I shall look through the photos again tomorrow, I don't recall seeing it when I looked.

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

I have tried to speed read the last twenty or so pages of this thread because so much has been posted since I was last here. However, I notice Mike is talking about a photograph of Sheila on the bed with one bullet wound as if that is the same photograph he stole and sent to JB. But I am fairly sure, somebody correct me if I am wrong, that when Mike introduced his informant Z into the equation and the photo he (Z) supposedly had of Sheila on the bed, Mike said it was different to the one he had seen because in that one Sheila had two bullet wounds. There was even discussion on here about how reliable Z was because his alledged picture of Sheila on the bed differed from that which Mike claimed to have "seen".

[Bridget]

I have tried to speed read the last twenty or so pages of this thread because so much has been posted since I was last here. However, I notice Mike is talking about a photograph of Sheila on the bed with one bullet wound as if that is the same photograph he stole and sent to JB. But I am fairly sure, somebody correct me if I am wrong, that when Mike introduced his informant Z into the equation and the photo he (Z) supposedly had of Sheila on the bed, Mike said it was different to the one he had seen because in that one Sheila had two bullet wounds. There was even discussion on here about how reliable Z was because his alledged picture of Sheila on the bed differed from that which Mike claimed to have "seen".

You are correct. The distinguishing feature of the ewen smith photo was that there was no blood on sheila's face, not the lack of one of the wounds.

[Patti]

Thanks, I shall look through the photos again tomorrow, I don't recall seeing it when I looked.

Iv'e not seen that photograph either...Is there any chance someone can post it please.

[susan]

ajross Can I see the photo as well please.

[ajross]

ajross Can I see the photo as well please.

When my son is not around I shall try and look through the photo archive to see if I can find it, I obviously don't want Ernest to see any of them though as he is too young but obsessed with the IPad