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« Reply #315 on: April 12, 2012, 03:13:PM »
Vic try and find out where I have said a phone call definitely happened you won't find it because it can't be proved

Please post the letter from the charity who own WHF it must exist so easily proved

I think you are setting world records for missing the point.
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« Reply #316 on: April 12, 2012, 03:14:PM »
Grahame, you're absolutely spot on. Jeremy informed the executor, basil cox, that the charity wanted him to move out, hence why he was having a massive sell off. Basil was angry that the charity should treat Jeremy in this way. After Jeremy was imprisoned and the farm fell empty, the charity confirmed that no such conversation had taken place. One can only assume that if Jeremy hadn't been imprisoned his plan was not to remain at WHF. When the tenancy came up for renewel Jeremy suprisingly applied from prison to take on the tenancy but this was obviously rejected and Peter and Ann took it on.



This is taken off Jeremys website about Jeremy and farming



Jeremy was definitely a ‘farmer’s boy’ who very much enjoyed that life style and wanted it to continue that way.

From 79-80 Jeremy spent time in Australia travelling. For 5 months he worked on a sugar plantation working with a family in Queensland; he really enjoyed employment for them on the farm and still speaks about their ingenious inventions of various types of machinery to harvest crops. At the end of that year he went to New Zealand and back to Australia a couple of times but for no great length of time. It has been suggested that Jeremy hated farming, if this was so then why did he work on a farm in Australia and not as a barman for example?
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #317 on: April 12, 2012, 03:15:PM »


This is taken off Jeremys website about Jeremy and farming



Jeremy was definitely a ‘farmer’s boy’ who very much enjoyed that life style and wanted it to continue that way.

From 79-80 Jeremy spent time in Australia travelling. For 5 months he worked on a sugar plantation working with a family in Queensland; he really enjoyed employment for them on the farm and still speaks about their ingenious inventions of various types of machinery to harvest crops. At the end of that year he went to New Zealand and back to Australia a couple of times but for no great length of time. It has been suggested that Jeremy hated farming, if this was so then why did he work on a farm in Australia and not as a barman for example?

So this is true is it?
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #318 on: April 12, 2012, 03:18:PM »


This is taken off Jeremys website about Jeremy and farming



Jeremy was definitely a ‘farmer’s boy’ who very much enjoyed that life style and wanted it to continue that way.

From 79-80 Jeremy spent time in Australia travelling. For 5 months he worked on a sugar plantation working with a family in Queensland; he really enjoyed employment for them on the farm and still speaks about their ingenious inventions of various types of machinery to harvest crops. At the end of that year he went to New Zealand and back to Australia a couple of times but for no great length of time. It has been suggested that Jeremy hated farming, if this was so then why did he work on a farm in Australia and not as a barman for example?

So why did he work as barman and waiter in Colchester?
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« Reply #319 on: April 12, 2012, 03:22:PM »
Vic try and find out where I have said a phone call definitely happened you won't find it because it can't be proved

Please post the letter from the charity who own WHF it must exist so easily proved

I suggest you start believing what you're told, as otherwise you're on the wrong team!!! Lol
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #320 on: April 12, 2012, 03:27:PM »
So why did he work as barman and waiter in Colchester?
  Possibly because he enjoyed socialising and meeting people, I would expect 'Sloppy Joe's' was quite a cool place to be in the 1980s.  We must remember Jeremy was a very young man at the time, and like most young people who have the opportunity, changed his mind about what he wanted to do quite often.  Jeremy wasn't at all mature in 1985/6 he was just  a kid.

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« Reply #321 on: April 12, 2012, 03:29:PM »
Vidvic
This should tell you all about the lampshade



After the trial, the Eaton’s moved into White House Farm, but Jeremy believes it is likely they moved in sooner. In Jeremy Bamber’s Interview with The Times in 2010 David James Smith details that “For many years Bamber has hinted at what he is now claiming. He told me he believes his cousins, motivated by the £400,000 estate, manufactured evidence against him, perjured themselves in court and conspired with the police to have him convicted and do him out of his inheritance. Bamber was disinherited on conviction and the estate passed to the Boutflours . . . . Ann Eaton moved into the farm not long after the murders and still lives there with her family. Bamber told me he thought she was a ‘sick puppy’ for doing that. Eaton would not talk to me for this article – indeed, after I wrote her a polite letter I received a “warning” call from an Essex Police Detective Superintendent asking me to leave her alone, which I did – but David Bouflour was generous and spoke to me at length. It is clear he doesn’t understand his sisters actions either, how could she? Boutflour told me he knew Ann’s children had suffered nightmares. As well you might” Smith goes on to detail “Anthony Pargeter has waged his own long legal struggle against the estate, to claim what he believes is his share. . . . Bamber was downgraded some years ago from a Category A prisoner to Category B meaning he was not such a risk of escape his conditions could be slightly relaxed. He was upgraded again to Category A apparently after his cousins received guidance from Essex Police on how they might make their feelings about his change of status known.” The relatives had made these submissions after the City of London Police Enquiry had shaken them with their endless questioning which Ann had said was making her ill after the police interviewed her in the kitchen at White House Farm where her uncle’s body had been found, odd then that she lived in this house since 1986 but never felt upset until the police came to question her about her involvement in the case. 

In 2002 the Metropolitan police attended White House Farm to see if they could obtain any DNA evidence from the farm as many of the furnishings, fittings and decorations still remained as they were on the night of the tragedy, indeed in 2004 Ann Eaton showed a camera crew from ITV1 around the house where 5 of her relatives died without her batting an eyelid. The Kitchen was as it had been and so was much of the house. Previously Ann had also worked with a television company to make a drama on the tragedy for ITV1 where she was portrayed by actress Diane Keen, she has also worked with authors of books on the case and other documentary makers. Ann Eaton has actively courted the media and gained notoriety and money as a result of Jeremy Bamber’s conviction.

In the master bedroom of White House Farm the Metropolitan police pulled up carpets and obtained DNA from the floor boards. DS Grater examined the bedroom at White House Farm in 2002 and said:

“I took possession of a bedside lamp which had apparent areas of dark staining on the lampshade. This lamp was in the main bedroom on top of the bedside cabinet to the right of the bed. I recognized this lamp from the scene photographs taken in 1985 as being identical to a bedside lamp which was in the main bedroom on the night of the murders.”[28]

Curiously, for 17 years Ann and Peter Eaton had preserved so much from the tragedy including a potentially bloodied lamp. In addition to this the wall paper was also the same in 2002 as seen in these crime scene photographs the master bedroom has barely changed at all.
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« Reply #322 on: April 12, 2012, 03:29:PM »
I suggest you start believing what you're told, as otherwise you're on the wrong team!!! Lol
Where does loads of laughs enter this debate. you obviously consider this as some sort of joke.
You had better reconsider your position with your brother in law,

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #323 on: April 12, 2012, 03:33:PM »
I think you are setting world records for missing the point.

Anne Eaton must have records of this you never know it might change some of us from innocent to guilty
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #324 on: April 12, 2012, 03:41:PM »
Vidvic
This should tell you all about the lampshade



After the trial, the Eaton’s moved into White House Farm, but Jeremy believes it is likely they moved in sooner. In Jeremy Bamber’s Interview with The Times in 2010 David James Smith details that “For many years Bamber has hinted at what he is now claiming. He told me he believes his cousins, motivated by the £400,000 estate, manufactured evidence against him, perjured themselves in court and conspired with the police to have him convicted and do him out of his inheritance. Bamber was disinherited on conviction and the estate passed to the Boutflours . . . . Ann Eaton moved into the farm not long after the murders and still lives there with her family. Bamber told me he thought she was a ‘sick puppy’ for doing that. Eaton would not talk to me for this article – indeed, after I wrote her a polite letter I received a “warning” call from an Essex Police Detective Superintendent asking me to leave her alone, which I did – but David Bouflour was generous and spoke to me at length. It is clear he doesn’t understand his sisters actions either, how could she? Boutflour told me he knew Ann’s children had suffered nightmares. As well you might” Smith goes on to detail “Anthony Pargeter has waged his own long legal struggle against the estate, to claim what he believes is his share. . . . Bamber was downgraded some years ago from a Category A prisoner to Category B meaning he was not such a risk of escape his conditions could be slightly relaxed. He was upgraded again to Category A apparently after his cousins received guidance from Essex Police on how they might make their feelings about his change of status known.” The relatives had made these submissions after the City of London Police Enquiry had shaken them with their endless questioning which Ann had said was making her ill after the police interviewed her in the kitchen at White House Farm where her uncle’s body had been found, odd then that she lived in this house since 1986 but never felt upset until the police came to question her about her involvement in the case.

In 2002 the Metropolitan police attended White House Farm to see if they could obtain any DNA evidence from the farm as many of the furnishings, fittings and decorations still remained as they were on the night of the tragedy, indeed in 2004 Ann Eaton showed a camera crew from ITV1 around the house where 5 of her relatives died without her batting an eyelid. The Kitchen was as it had been and so was much of the house. Previously Ann had also worked with a television company to make a drama on the tragedy for ITV1 where she was portrayed by actress Diane Keen, she has also worked with authors of books on the case and other documentary makers. Ann Eaton has actively courted the media and gained notoriety and money as a result of Jeremy Bamber’s conviction.

In the master bedroom of White House Farm the Metropolitan police pulled up carpets and obtained DNA from the floor boards. DS Grater examined the bedroom at White House Farm in 2002 and said:

“I took possession of a bedside lamp which had apparent areas of dark staining on the lampshade. This lamp was in the main bedroom on top of the bedside cabinet to the right of the bed. I recognized this lamp from the scene photographs taken in 1985 as being identical to a bedside lamp which was in the main bedroom on the night of the murders.”[28]

Curiously, for 17 years Ann and Peter Eaton had preserved so much from the tragedy including a potentially bloodied lamp. In addition to this the wall paper was also the same in 2002 as seen in these crime scene photographs the master bedroom has barely changed at all.

Jackie, the first factual error of this piece is the first sentence. There are many more.
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« Reply #325 on: April 12, 2012, 03:42:PM »
Anne Eaton must have records of this you never know it might change some of us from innocent to guilty

You never know jackie, One day you might answer a question.
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« Reply #326 on: April 12, 2012, 03:45:PM »
Where does loads of laughs enter this debate. you obviously consider this as some sort of joke.
You had better reconsider your position with your brother in law,

Buddy, if jackie doesn't believe that Nevill called Jeremy that morning then that is truly laughable.
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« Reply #327 on: April 12, 2012, 03:51:PM »
Vic you know exactly what I mean!


I have come to my own impartial view of this case on the available evidence not held under PII

Why keep posting hearsay when you  could easily post proof

I wrote to Jeremy for a short period and do not believe what I am fed by the people who have the most to lose
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #328 on: April 12, 2012, 03:52:PM »


This is taken off Jeremys website about Jeremy and farming



Jeremy was definitely a ‘farmer’s boy’ who very much enjoyed that life style and wanted it to continue that way.

From 79-80 Jeremy spent time in Australia travelling. For 5 months he worked on a sugar plantation working with a family in Queensland; he really enjoyed employment for them on the farm and still speaks about their ingenious inventions of various types of machinery to harvest crops. At the end of that year he went to New Zealand and back to Australia a couple of times but for no great length of time. It has been suggested that Jeremy hated farming, if this was so then why did he work on a farm in Australia and not as a barman for example?
I suppose this all hinges upon the supposition that Jeremy told Basil Cox that he had to move out because the charity wanted him to? It would of course settle things a bit if there were a letter of proof that this actually happened and that Jeremy actually said that?

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« Reply #329 on: April 12, 2012, 03:53:PM »
Buddy, if jackie doesn't believe that Nevill called Jeremy that morning then that is truly laughable.
Its still no laughing matter Vic.