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People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« on: April 07, 2012, 11:43:AM »
Since the documentary by Mark Williams-Thomas there seems to have been some sort of smear campaign to discredit the documentary. Comments from Jeremy Bamber campaigners has ranged from the documentary being vile to the documentary changed their mind from innocent to guilty.

I have posted below one of those comments and I have also posted details that show Sunil Chandrum has close connections to the 'Official Jeremy Bamber Campaign'

Mark Cropper for one actually runs the campaign and Maria Perez has posted a testimonial for Jeremy

The thing I cannot get my head around is why would someone do something so harmful to Jeremy
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2012, 12:02:PM »
try again
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 12:09:PM »
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 12:12:PM »
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From: [email protected]
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2012 11:23:19 +0100
> To: [email protected]
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> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 09/02/2012 11:17
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> > @SunilChandran1 Missed ya, yes did you see Guardian? I will also pray for him also, thanks for wishing us well happiness awaits him at home
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 03/02/2012 22:21
> > @MariaPerez672 any update on Jeremy there's no news on what evidence my kindest to him, he is in my prayers you are a good and loyal woman
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/16
> > 5560598753583104
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 30/01/2012 07:46
> > @Jojotew yes yes apolz just got your dm
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/163890866937806849
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> > @JoJoTew
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> > @SunilChandran1 did Mandy talk to you after the meeting? I'll DM
> > 28.01.2011
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 17/01/2012 17:33
> > So sorry to hear the news about Jeremy Bamber I hope that good fortune will come to you soon my friend @Bambertweets and case gets to appeal
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/159327546138312705
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 16/01/2012 18:29
> > @markocropper This was bound to happen sooner or later and it's not surprising at all
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/158979106204168192
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> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 12/01/2012 11:51
> > @SunilChandran1 in the north. Thanks for tweeting about Jeremy Bamber we want him home very soon.
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/157429445869846528
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 10/01/2012 19:12
> > @jackiepreece I see you are not happy, love those who give you anger, look inside yourself for peace and love you will find it harmonious
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/156815797128404992
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 10/01/2012 19:07
> > Chillin and listening to new tunes Rommi and Steve are visiting tonight Jo. I thought Alan was a bit over zealous in the meeting today
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/156814523616079872
> >
> > @JoJoTew
> > @jackiepreece Why do you bother getting up in the morning only to spit out venom all day at other people?
> > 06.01.2012
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 05/01/2012 14:12
> > @jackiepreece Please I appeal to your better side to stop this anger at others and be a better person unite with all those who love Jeremy
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/154928269802745856
> >
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 05/01/2012 14:11
> > @MariaPerez672 Yes its blustery here where are you based? May you travel in safety always Maria.
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/154927914926878720
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> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 05/01/2012 08:08
> > @SunilChandran1 Yes it was good and we are both fine working towards freedom thanks for mails London is grey this time of year!
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/154836584678690817
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 04/01/2012 09:18
> > @mariaperez672 did you and Jeremy have a good Christmas and New Year? It's always a grim getting back to work but tennis helps!
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/154491979198234624
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> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 05/01/2012 08:06
> > @jackiepreece you cause trouble for Jeremy Bamber and @simonmckay by slagging both of them off don't lie Jackie
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/154836123649191937
> >
> > @JoJoTew
> >
> > @jackiepreece Why dont you shut your filthy mouth Jackie everyone knows you talk about @simonmckay like he's your best friend but insult him
> > 5.01.2011
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> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 03/01/2012 08:24
> > @jackiepreece that's a nasty thing to say about @smionmckay as he is the only person who Jeremy takes legal advice from
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/154115940894777344
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> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 31/12/2011 12:53
> > @tiredoldowl Thanks for the chat the other day, things can get a bit much sometimes hope Jeremy is home soon.
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/153096543854006272
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> >
> > @JoJoTew
> > @Markocropper
> > Exclusive: Leaked Details of How Facebook Plans To Sell Your Timeline to Advertisers http://t.co/GalUVqcW
> > 24.12.2011
> > Retweeted by JoJoTew
> >
> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 21/12/2011 09:56
> > @SunilChandran1 yes I do, he is very sincere and works hard on his case of course being innocent. Do you know him too?
> >
> >
> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 21/12/2011 08:03
> > @MariaPerez672 I did actually, Jeremy Bamber has a lot of supporters and I thought I would go with the majority. Do you know Jeremy?
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/149399531589611520
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> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 21/12/2011 08:00
> > @SunilChandran1 Did you join the campaign and write to the Home Affairs Committee?
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/149398705848594432
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> >
> > 148345012332138496
> >
> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 18/12/2011 10:05
> > Great Christmas lunch with all the guys from Zizzi last night thanks, been a great year and next even better!
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/148343081169731584
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> > 148345012332138496
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> > Maria Perez (@MariaPerez672):
> > 16/12/2011 15:02
> > #TodayisFriday of to see my wonderful man tomorrow
> > https://twitter.com/MariaPerez672/status/147693069398065153
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> > @JoJoTew
> >
> > @SunilChandran1 what has a lazy one been doing this past week, will call to catch up
> > 11.12.2011
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> > @JoJoTew
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> > Sunny heard about your car what a disaster, sorry to hear about it mate, just thank God you are ok.
> > 30.11.2011
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 28/11/2011 20:47
> > @Bambertweets and just to add I think he has been treated appallingly I am just reading up on your web site best to Jeremy Bamber
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/141256928654401538
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> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 25/11/2011 19:31
> > @jojotew Is it your last week this week?
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/140150760431288320
> >
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 19/11/2011 09:23
> > @Jojotew nightmare!
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/137823305670463488
> >
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> > @JoJoTew
> >
> > @SunilChandran1 Amazon smartphone sounds like a good idea to me lets wait and see
> > 18.11.2011
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> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 17/11/2011 08:00
> > @Jojotew wont being going back for a while yet
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/137077756713373697
> >
> >
> > @JoJoTew
> > @SunilChandran1 Sunny you still off work? Jamie was asking me earlier
> > 16.11.11
> >
> >
> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 16/11/2011 17:10
> > @Jojotew yes what does that stray want?
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/136853553749827584
> >
> >
> > @JoJoTew
> > @SunilChandran1 @Markocropper Hey I do my best!
> >
> >
> > Sunil Chandran (@SunilChandran1):
> > 11/11/2011 07:33
> > @Jojotew as promised!
> > https://twitter.com/SunilChandran1/status/134896388935917569
> >
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> > @JoJoTew
> > @SunilChandran1 No cos some schools think all kids have PC they dont seem to realize people have MAC's too!
> >
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> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 11/11/2011 08:27
> > @sunilchandran1 Sunny good to see you on here, I saw Alex the other week told me bout the latest events in your dept, least pave the way
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/134910205942173696
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 11/11/2011 08:30
> > @SunilChandran1 lol has Jem got one already - affluent parents!
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/134910865873960960
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 12/11/2011 08:38
> > @sunilchandran1 I miss that winter feeling
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/135275176639213568
> >
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 05/03/2011 07:08
> > Sarah are you doing that page today? Do you want me to set it up for you so can drop the text in or is someone else going to do it?
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/43930784675012608
> >
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 11/03/2011 08:29
> > It's a bit sickly but here's a message to all you guys supporting Jeremy Bamber http://tinyurl.com/6bpbtbf
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/46125683306528768
>
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 30/07/2011 09:11
> > Copy & Paste this Jeremy Bamber Campaign resource into a tweet and feel good about doing something vital http://www.jeremybambercampaign.co.uk/compliments-slips
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/97217848593747969
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Cropper (@Markocropper):
> > 25/08/2011 08:45
> > @bambertweets see the campaign is coming on leaps and bounds well done guys and gals
> > https://twitter.com/Markocropper/status/106633396364648448
> >
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> >
> > @JoJoTew
> > @Markocropper God don't say that Mark, no way are they going to do that its outrageous!
> > 2.03.2011
> >
> >
> > @marketingB2B
> > RT @Intendance: Shouted "I love b2b marketing" at #tfma and won two free tickets to the next social media seminar ... http://tmi.me/7f1M9
> > Retweeted by JoJoTew
> > 1.03.2011
> >
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> > @Markocropper
> > Jeremy Bamber the truth is out and Jeremy should be out too, police lied, fabricated evidence, relatives had to ensure that they inherited
> > Retweeted by JoJoTew
> > 1.03.2011
> >
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> > @JoJoTew
> > Very informative and free! http://www.marketingtoday.com/
>
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2012, 12:37:PM »
heres more from Poppymeze telling everyone on twitter to ignore the documentary which Mark Williams-Thomas worked on with Jeremys Highly experianced lawyer Simon Mckay and to find out the truth from the Official Website which is run by people that have no legal expertise or media training.
Do these people not realise how this behaviour could upset the very people that are so important to Jeremy at this time

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03/04/2012 14:23
After ITV's vile prog on Jeremy Bamber, a reminder COLP IPCC & Gov.ment do know the truth.http://poppymeze.blogspot.com/2011/11/justice-4jeremy-read-my-lips-letter-to.html via @PoppyMeze @Bambertweets


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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2012, 12:40:PM »
I bet Simon McKay who is working for Jeremy pro bono is overjoyed with the latest behaviour from the official campaign team.  Last time was when they were posting on John Lambertons site

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2012, 01:07:PM »
heres more from Poppymeze telling everyone on twitter to ignore the documentary which Mark Williams-Thomas worked on with Jeremys Highly experianced lawyer Simon Mckay and to find out the truth from the Official Website which is run by people that have no legal expertise or media training.
Do these people not realise how this behaviour could upset the very people that are so important to Jeremy at this time

(@PoppyMeze):
03/04/2012 14:23
After ITV's vile prog on Jeremy Bamber, a reminder COLP IPCC & Gov.ment do know the truth.http://poppymeze.blogspot.com/2011/11/justice-4jeremy-read-my-lips-letter-to.html via @PoppyMeze @Bambertweets
I sense sour grapes here Jackie? Probably because Mark Williams-Thomas didn't go to the official campaign team for information? A fair bit of jealousy there I think? The point of the program as I understand it was to present an outline of the new evidence found? In order to do that you must give a brief commentary of what it is all about and who is Jeremy Bamber etc. It was not to go over all the old ground which has been well trodden by others over the years. I for one would like a follow up program.

But I believe the program achieved what it set out to do and one of those things I think they wanted to do was to put this new evidence into the public domain so as to put pressure on the CCRC to refer JB's case to the court of appeal. In my opinion they did this very successfully. Because this new evidence has been presented to the scrutiny of public opinion it has backed the CCRC into a corner (because in the minds of many people they represent a system where injustice is the order of the day and this new evidence will help them to redeem themselves in the eyes of the public) so that they may feel compelled to refer JB's case to the court of appeal.
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2012, 01:09:PM »
I bet Simon McKay who is working for Jeremy pro bono is overjoyed with the latest behaviour from the official campaign team.  Last time was when they were posting on John Lambertons site

#absolutemadness
I think what you have here Jackie is what was called in the first world war as 5th columnists?

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 01:23:PM »
Grahame I think your are absolutely right with both posts and the games have carried on as expected this was posted by the official campaign team(who have no legal expertise or media training) urging everyone to watch Crimes that Shook Britain because it proves Jeremy is innocent

There was obviously no need for another documentary or Simon McKay then?
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2012, 01:25:PM »
I totally agree with you!  :o

Some people only care if it happen to them!!!! those people on the internet are not worth the internet data packets they written on!!

Only people who been researching this case for 12 months or more have more standing then them!  :P

If now fully believe Jermemy didn't do it!!!

If I worked at CCRC as a security guard, I personally have a notebook and usb film neg scanner under my suit, and give to jeremey's legal team and say uses this and don't get caught, heres a radio too :) and I stand outside the door try to keeps other CCRC way and hand it back to me, plus a copy on micro SD card for the "legal team" that then could be hidden inside a shoe or "modifed metal belt clip" if theres metal detectors there!

my laptop is only less then 12inchs wide, by 8inchs? plus a small usb film neg scanner too! as security gaurd carry radios....

But again, I bet most security gaurds there are agency?  ::)

But that how much I think jermey is inccoent! :)
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2012, 03:48:PM »
i dont think that documentary haveing watched it could have made anyone think he was guilty unless they already thought it.

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« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 04:08:PM »
Exactly nugnug a well worked out plan to try to discredit Mark and furthermore discredit any work Simon has done
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 04:11:PM »
More could have been made of the NOTW deal. The alleged use of a shotgun was totally wrong.
Bewes statements are ever changing. He stated that it was Jeremy pointed out the movement in the window, yet we know [and so does Bewes] it was Myall.
Bewes stated that the relatives found the silencer some months after the murders, which we all know is untrue.
All in all it was a poor programme with a lot of inaccuracies,

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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 05:06:PM »
More could have been made of the NOTW deal. The alleged use of a shotgun was totally wrong.
Bewes statements are ever changing. He stated that it was Jeremy pointed out the movement in the window, yet we know [and so does Bewes] it was Myall.
Bewes stated that the relatives found the silencer some months after the murders, which we all know is untrue.
All in all it was a poor programme with a lot of inaccuracies,

The thing is Buddy, some of the inaccuracies arguably came from prosecution witnesses who were interviewed.  Mark Williams-Thomas air time probably wasn't sufficient to challenge what was said.  If a prosecution witness changes their story on camera, it can hardly be harmful in the long run for the defence.  It might actually work the in the favour of the defence, in theory.

Also, 'gunshot' & 'shotgun' are merely the reversal of two syllables in the same word .  I wonder if this is a common mistake when speaking?
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Re: People Are Playing Games With Jeremys Life and Freedom
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2012, 05:20:PM »
The thing is Buddy, some of the innaccuracies arguably came from prosecution witnesses who were interviewed.  Mark Williams-Thomas air time probably wasn't sufficient to challenge what was said.  If a prosecution witness changes their story on camera, it can hardly be harmful in the long run for the defence.  It might actually work the in the favour of the defence, in theory.

Excellent point Rochy about Bewes I expect the ccrc were watching and I wonder what they made of the star performer Bewes.

One of the major things that annoys me is all over twitter certain people trying to imply it was weighted towards the prosecution

In the crimes that shook Britain Bob Miller and the reporter had starring roles with a lot of airtime and they definitely said Jeremy was guilty

I will have to add up the time miller and the reporter was on screen and compare to to Boutflour and the other policeman on MTW documentary

It's just people with an agenda trying to cause trouble
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